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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 783528" data-attributes="member: 5890">Actually, spellcasters pretty much do. There's a list of spells which everyone knows about, and the highest level spell you can cast is firmly linked to your level. Hence if your best spell is fireball, then someone who can cast meteor swarm knows that you're less than a third as skilled a wizard as he.Unless the xp system really does mean that adventurers go out into the wilderness for a few days and learn more in that time than others learn in a lifetime, they know that the ftr5/wiz5 was in apprenticeship along with them, and still struggles with spells that they long ago mastered.The ftr10/wiz10 has been at it for twice as long as they, and still has only managed to master what they have? What kind of a wizard is he?That's why I restricted it. Groups of level 10 characters exist. Groups of level 10 characters with a wizard and a fighter/wizard exist. Such groups will most certainly not consider the fighter/wizard to be their 'magic support',&nbsp; he's firmly relegated to being a fighter with a few tricks.Simply put - being a wizard advances your skills in fighting, but being a fighter does not advance your skills in wizardry. I see this as a problem, and a barrier to creating anything that's not just a non-spellcaster with a few tricks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 783528, member: 5890"] Actually, spellcasters pretty much do. There's a list of spells which everyone knows about, and the highest level spell you can cast is firmly linked to your level. Hence if your best spell is fireball, then someone who can cast meteor swarm knows that you're less than a third as skilled a wizard as he. Unless the xp system really does mean that adventurers go out into the wilderness for a few days and learn more in that time than others learn in a lifetime, they know that the ftr5/wiz5 was in apprenticeship along with them, and still struggles with spells that they long ago mastered. The ftr10/wiz10 has been at it for twice as long as they, and still has only managed to master what they have? What kind of a wizard is he? [b][/B] That's why I restricted it. Groups of level 10 characters exist. Groups of level 10 characters with a wizard and a fighter/wizard exist. Such groups will most certainly not consider the fighter/wizard to be their 'magic support', he's firmly relegated to being a fighter with a few tricks. Simply put - being a wizard advances your skills in fighting, but being a fighter does not advance your skills in wizardry. I see this as a problem, and a barrier to creating anything that's not just a non-spellcaster with a few tricks. [/QUOTE]

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