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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1204273" data-attributes="member: 1656">He's not necessarily talking about a Spear designed for use by a Small creature.He's talking about a pointy stick.&quot;Improvised Weapons: Sometimes objects not crafted to be weapons nonetheless see use in combat. Because such objects are not designed for this use, any creature that uses one in combat is considered to be nonproficient with it and takes a –4 penalty on attack rolls made with that object. To determine the size category and appropriate damage for an improvised weapon, compare its relative size and damage potential to the weapon list to find a reasonable match. An improvised weapon scores a threat on a natural roll of 20 and deals double damage on a critical hit. An improvised thrown weapon has a range increment of 10 feet.&quot;So, this jagged wedge of iron, with a rag wrapped around one end for a grip, is a reasonable match for an improvised Medium Dagger.&nbsp; It's also a reasonable match for an improvised Small Shortsword.A human can use a Medium Dagger.&nbsp; He can't use a Small Shortsword - it's too small.&nbsp; But the improvised weapon is a reasonable match for both items.So if he finds a real Small Shortsword, can he use it as an improvised Medium Dagger, at a -4 penalty?-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1204273, member: 1656"] He's not necessarily talking about a Spear designed for use by a Small creature. He's talking about a pointy stick. "Improvised Weapons: Sometimes objects not crafted to be weapons nonetheless see use in combat. Because such objects are not designed for this use, any creature that uses one in combat is considered to be nonproficient with it and takes a –4 penalty on attack rolls made with that object. To determine the size category and appropriate damage for an improvised weapon, compare its relative size and damage potential to the weapon list to find a reasonable match. An improvised weapon scores a threat on a natural roll of 20 and deals double damage on a critical hit. An improvised thrown weapon has a range increment of 10 feet." So, this jagged wedge of iron, with a rag wrapped around one end for a grip, is a reasonable match for an improvised Medium Dagger. It's also a reasonable match for an improvised Small Shortsword. A human can use a Medium Dagger. He can't use a Small Shortsword - it's too small. But the improvised weapon is a reasonable match for both items. So if he finds a real Small Shortsword, can he use it as an improvised Medium Dagger, at a -4 penalty? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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