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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1207615" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>A "masterwork sword" in the real world has a hilt built exclusively for <em>one person</em>. Generally, to get full effectiveness out of a blade the hilt is replaced for the new owner.</p><p></p><p>And that's about it. Having a hilt fitted to your hand is a luxury - not a requirement. And whether the hilt is 1/2" in diameter, 1" in diameter, or 12" in diameter - it's still just "not fitted" for you. I have a difficult time seeing a character get a masterwork bonus for <em>any</em> sword which has not had the hilt refit (a task that takes about half an hour).</p><p></p><p>This is, however, a trivial matter - and one which the game does not even bother to address. If a female human and a male dwarf can hand a masterwork sword back and forth and still claim the masterwork bonus - there's no reason why a human and a halfling couldn't do the same thing.</p><p></p><p>Using children's equipment simply isn't difficult at all. And that's <em>more</em> than the difference between humans and halflings. Grade school children are small, preschool children are <em>tiny</em>. And using their equipment is not in any way difficult.</p><p></p><p>Go to a preschool and take the toy hammers they have and swing them around. They are really light (generally being made of plastic and all) - but do you see yourself having any difficulty <em>holding</em> them? Of course not!</p><p></p><p>Now go to a little league and pick up one of the metal bats. Swing it around some. Do you have difficulty swinging it? You may have difficulty bringing both of your arms in on it based upon its length compared to the breadth of your shoulders - but that's what you'd expect when a weapon becomes light anyway. As to the problem of holding and swinging it - it's just not a problem at all.</p><p></p><p>We have opposable thumbs. Look at your hand, it gets really big, and it gets really small. I can wrap my hand around a knitting needle. If I wanted to, I could stab people with it. I can also wrap my hand around the leg of my chair - and since it's removable, I could totally hit people with it. The knitting needle is about 1 mm in diameter. The chair leg is a good 8 centimeters. Neither is a problem because I have a thumb, a flexible palm, and four fingers with three joints each. When I make a fist, I can hold water in my hand - that's how tightly my hands can close. When I move furniture I can hold a refrigerator closed while lifting it - that's how open they can grip.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I can easily pick up and swing objects which are different in width by 80 times. And that's just in the room <em>right now</em>. I have no doubt in my mind that I can pick up and swing larger things - especially if I was going to use two hands.</p><p></p><p>The degree to which you are selling thumbs short is puzzling. When was the last time you picked something up?</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1207615, member: 14225"] A "masterwork sword" in the real world has a hilt built exclusively for [i]one person[/i]. Generally, to get full effectiveness out of a blade the hilt is replaced for the new owner. And that's about it. Having a hilt fitted to your hand is a luxury - not a requirement. And whether the hilt is 1/2" in diameter, 1" in diameter, or 12" in diameter - it's still just "not fitted" for you. I have a difficult time seeing a character get a masterwork bonus for [i]any[/i] sword which has not had the hilt refit (a task that takes about half an hour). This is, however, a trivial matter - and one which the game does not even bother to address. If a female human and a male dwarf can hand a masterwork sword back and forth and still claim the masterwork bonus - there's no reason why a human and a halfling couldn't do the same thing. Using children's equipment simply isn't difficult at all. And that's [i]more[/i] than the difference between humans and halflings. Grade school children are small, preschool children are [i]tiny[/i]. And using their equipment is not in any way difficult. Go to a preschool and take the toy hammers they have and swing them around. They are really light (generally being made of plastic and all) - but do you see yourself having any difficulty [i]holding[/i] them? Of course not! Now go to a little league and pick up one of the metal bats. Swing it around some. Do you have difficulty swinging it? You may have difficulty bringing both of your arms in on it based upon its length compared to the breadth of your shoulders - but that's what you'd expect when a weapon becomes light anyway. As to the problem of holding and swinging it - it's just not a problem at all. We have opposable thumbs. Look at your hand, it gets really big, and it gets really small. I can wrap my hand around a knitting needle. If I wanted to, I could stab people with it. I can also wrap my hand around the leg of my chair - and since it's removable, I could totally hit people with it. The knitting needle is about 1 mm in diameter. The chair leg is a good 8 centimeters. Neither is a problem because I have a thumb, a flexible palm, and four fingers with three joints each. When I make a fist, I can hold water in my hand - that's how tightly my hands can close. When I move furniture I can hold a refrigerator closed while lifting it - that's how open they can grip. Yes, I can easily pick up and swing objects which are different in width by 80 times. And that's just in the room [i]right now[/i]. I have no doubt in my mind that I can pick up and swing larger things - especially if I was going to use two hands. The degree to which you are selling thumbs short is puzzling. When was the last time you picked something up? -Frank [/QUOTE]
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