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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasin" data-source="post: 3805634" data-attributes="member: 7531">It's cumbersome, but I don't think it's silly, and it can be pretty cool when you imagine it.A berserker is facing and heavily armoured knight, and extremely hard target. So the barbarian figures he'll smash the knight's shield with his glaive! But this isn't something he's had much practice with. As the glaive comes down just a bit slower, the knight spots the opportunity and hacks as the shaft with his sword. But he's not well versed in this either, so his sword gets stuck in the shaft, and the barbarian slams it into the ground, before bringing the glaive back up to smash the shield into splinters!This actually happend recently.Barbarian: sunders shield (no Improved Sunder)- Crusader: gets AoO: sunders glaive- - Barbarian: gets AoO (Combat Reflexes): sunders sword- - - Crusader doesn't get AoO (no Combat Reflexes): sucks to be himIt does bring the game to a halt while everyone wraps their heads around the nesting, though.I'd love to see a system that worked more smoothly but kept the action-reaction aspect rather than having combatants just do their own thing regardless of what the opponent's doing.</blockquote>