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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6931137" data-attributes="member: 57383">Oh this old chestnut. Let's assume we have the usual argument about &quot;my fun is enhanced by a rule system that plays more lip service to suspension of disbelief&quot; and proceed.Anyhow, I'm kind of looking at it in the other direction. A high level fighter ought to be way better than any possible real-world fighter. Even an expert SEAL team member or multi-black belt martial artist is probably equivalent to, say, 4th or 5th level in D&amp;D terms. They can perform their equivalent of &quot;encounter level&quot; abilities multiple times in a melee if it seems appropriate, so I'd prefer them to be able to do so in game as well.If a fighter-type gains agency by being able to perform, say, three tricks once each in a fight (trick A, trick B, trick C). Surely they gain more agency by being able to perform three tricks from a choice of three (two As and a C, one of each, or whatever other combination they can manage).It seems a perfectly reasonable complication. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />The main problem is it's a major change to the base rules assumptions so would require some heavy rewriting and rebalancing. The idea doesn't play well with the &quot;simplifying 4E&quot; goals of the original premise.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6931137, member: 57383"] Oh this old chestnut. Let's assume we have the usual argument about "my fun is enhanced by a rule system that plays more lip service to suspension of disbelief" and proceed. Anyhow, I'm kind of looking at it in the other direction. A high level fighter ought to be [I][B]way[/B][/I] better than any possible real-world fighter. Even an expert SEAL team member or multi-black belt martial artist is probably equivalent to, say, 4th or 5th level in D&D terms. They can perform their equivalent of "encounter level" abilities multiple times in a melee if it seems appropriate, so I'd prefer them to be able to do so in game as well. If a fighter-type gains agency by being able to perform, say, three tricks once each in a fight (trick A, trick B, trick C). Surely they gain [B][I]more[/I][/B] agency by being able to perform three tricks from a choice of three (two As and a C, one of each, or whatever other combination they can manage). It seems a perfectly reasonable complication. :cool: The main problem is it's a major change to the base rules assumptions so would require some heavy rewriting and rebalancing. The idea doesn't play well with the "simplifying 4E" goals of the original premise. [/QUOTE]

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