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<blockquote data-quote="Storme" data-source="post: 3970499" data-attributes="member: 56172">Simulacrum:Make a simulacrum of a 20th level fighter and you get a 10th level fighter with the feats, abilities, and skills the guy would have if he were 10th level.&nbsp; Simple.How do you make&nbsp; a sim of an adult green dragon?Does he retain it's non level based abilities while becoming half HD (which is what you'd do with most monsters without any issues).Do you pretend that &quot;Half Power&quot; means &quot;Half Age,&quot; and treat him like a Very Young dragon (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but its still an option)?Or do you just take everything he has and cut it in half (as you did in AD&amp;D, though this is not how the spell is described)?ADULT GREEN DRAGON SIM (20HD) Retaining Inherent Abilities:HD 10d12 +50 (original 10d12 +100)Breath Weapon: 12d6 (DC 25) (inherent ability...same as original)Frightful Presence DC 23 (inherent)AC 27/8/27 (inherent)DR 5/magic (inherent)SR 21 (inherent)Suggestion 3x/day (inherent)Sorcerer Caster Level: 5 (inherent)ADULT GREEN DRAGON SIM TREATED AS A VERY YOUNG (half HD of 20) DRAGON:10d12 +20 (con dropped 6 points)Breath Weapon: 4d6 (DC 16)AC 17/10/17 (It is both softer and smaller...hmm)No Frightful Presence, DR, SR, spell-like abilities, or Sorcerer CL as Very Young.ADULT GREEN DRAGON SIM DIVIDED BY TWO:HD 10d12+50Frightful Presence DC 11AC 27/8/27 (It is not smaller or less dense...can't justify cutting AC in half logically)Breath weapon: 6d6, DC 12Frightful Presence: DC 11DR 2/magicSR 10Caster Level: 2Suggestion 3x/dayWhich is your take?&nbsp; I lean on option one...inherent abilites since this most supports the spell description without rewriting it.&nbsp; This is not an issue with an Ogre, but with a Rakshasa, it is.&nbsp; One friend suggested using Savage Species and assinging &quot;levels&quot; to monsters.&nbsp; I reminded him the book isn't Core and we don't have it.&nbsp; Hehe.Spell descrition below for those who don't have the book handly.Storme</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Storme, post: 3970499, member: 56172"] Simulacrum: Make a simulacrum of a 20th level fighter and you get a 10th level fighter with the feats, abilities, and skills the guy would have if he were 10th level. Simple. How do you make a sim of an adult green dragon? Does he retain it's non level based abilities while becoming half HD (which is what you'd do with most monsters without any issues). Do you pretend that "Half Power" means "Half Age," and treat him like a Very Young dragon (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but its still an option)? Or do you just take everything he has and cut it in half (as you did in AD&D, though this is not how the spell is described)? ADULT GREEN DRAGON SIM (20HD) Retaining Inherent Abilities: HD 10d12 +50 (original 10d12 +100) Breath Weapon: 12d6 (DC 25) (inherent ability...same as original) Frightful Presence DC 23 (inherent) AC 27/8/27 (inherent) DR 5/magic (inherent) SR 21 (inherent) Suggestion 3x/day (inherent) Sorcerer Caster Level: 5 (inherent) ADULT GREEN DRAGON SIM TREATED AS A VERY YOUNG (half HD of 20) DRAGON: 10d12 +20 (con dropped 6 points) Breath Weapon: 4d6 (DC 16) AC 17/10/17 (It is both softer and smaller...hmm) No Frightful Presence, DR, SR, spell-like abilities, or Sorcerer CL as Very Young. ADULT GREEN DRAGON SIM DIVIDED BY TWO: HD 10d12+50 Frightful Presence DC 11 AC 27/8/27 (It is not smaller or less dense...can't justify cutting AC in half logically) Breath weapon: 6d6, DC 12 Frightful Presence: DC 11 DR 2/magic SR 10 Caster Level: 2 Suggestion 3x/day Which is your take? I lean on option one...inherent abilites since this most supports the spell description without rewriting it. This is not an issue with an Ogre, but with a Rakshasa, it is. One friend suggested using Savage Species and assinging "levels" to monsters. I reminded him the book isn't Core and we don't have it. Hehe. Spell descrition below for those who don't have the book handly. Storme [/QUOTE]

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