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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 6297789" data-attributes="member: 3192">The OP's question may lead to bad thinking from highly prejudiced theories about what games are, like GNR, GNS, and the Big Model. Instead of limiting ourselves to these two aims for D&amp;D, why don't we try and pinpoint some more?What's more important for you in D&amp;D?<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Simulating how a creature works in your imagination in the rules so you can play a game with that construction?</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Discovering the complexities and inner workings of a bunch of patterns which make up a game?</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Escaping actual reality for a fantasy reality existing only in your imagination or perhaps someone else's imagination?</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pretending to be someone you're not?</li>
</ol>For me, there is another option which is not simply D&amp;D, but how D&amp;D was designed if not always played for 25 years Dungeons &amp; Dragons: Learning how to perform a social role in a fantasy reality, like wizard, where that role is defined by game patterns you can master all while being able to pretend be someone else - though its not mandatory.Everything the Referee says during play is determined by an unknown code of rules which you can then game to learn more about and master.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 6297789, member: 3192"] The OP's question may lead to bad thinking from highly prejudiced theories about what games are, like GNR, GNS, and the Big Model. Instead of limiting ourselves to these two aims for D&D, why don't we try and pinpoint some more? What's more important for you in D&D? [LIST=1] [*]Simulating how a creature works in your imagination in the rules so you can play a game with that construction? [*]Discovering the complexities and inner workings of a bunch of patterns which make up a game? [*]Escaping actual reality for a fantasy reality existing only in your imagination or perhaps someone else's imagination? [*]Pretending to be someone you're not? [/LIST] For me, there is another option which is not simply D&D, but how D&D was designed if not always played for 25 years [U]Dungeons & Dragons[/U]: Learning how to perform a social role in a fantasy reality, like wizard, where that role is defined by game patterns you can master all while being able to pretend be someone else - though its not mandatory. Everything the Referee says during play is determined by an unknown code of rules which you can then game to learn more about and master. [/QUOTE]

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