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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6301908" data-attributes="member: 87792">I did not say that your ideas were killed off.  I said and I maintain that they are not the dominant mode of D&D and have not been for thirty years.  The two statements are very different.  You are welcome to play the way you like.  There is no team of WotC Ninjas, Storygaming Gestapo, or TSR Hackers that police the way you play.  You just do not have the right to declare what other people do to not be RPGs.As for not appreciating other peoples' understandings when they contradict my own, [MENTION=29398]Lanefan[/MENTION] for example has takes on gameplay that contradict mine - but that makes him interesting to read precisely because of this.  We are never going to agree on some things, but this doesn't mean that we can't learn from each other.  You on the other hand have posted a long succession of statements that are factually incorrect and I have shown that they are incorrect by providing counterexamples.  There is occasionally something to learn from someone who bases their logic on false premises, but for the most part you can take them with a pinch of salt. And this is a complete misapprehension.  You can strategise all you like.  But in almost any storygame there are half a dozen players all also adding to the game, strategising their own things, and the dice are adding elements to the story.  No plan survives first contact with the enemy.  And if things work entirely to plan rather than the whole thing being a scramble that ends up nowhere you envisaged because there aren't simple binary win conditions then, if you are playing a storygame, it feels boring.And I'm asking you to stop posting statements that are factually incorrect.  I have demonstrated that your statements are strictly factually incorrect with counterexamples pulled from games.  You merely claim based on your assertions that I have misunderstandings.And even this statement is incorrect.You posted a lot of unsupported assertions.  I demonstrated most of your assertions to be strictly factually false by posting counterexamples.  This is a public forum.  If you keep posting incorrect statements about Storygames here I intend to keep on demonstrating that they are false so that people who do not play Storygames are not left believing what you have stated is accurate or in any way reflects the term Storygames as used by those who play them.  Feel free to stop posting on this subject and to stick to posting about the version of D&D you very clearly love.</blockquote>

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