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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8840378" data-attributes="member: 72555">In 4e, there is Astral Sea, Ethereal, Far Realm, Fey, Shadow, Prime, Elemental Chaos.The Abyss is a part of the Elemental Chaos.The other &quot;higher&quot; planes are all pockets within the Astral Sea, including Hell.&nbsp; Hell is has been sealed.The Elemental Chaos isn't &quot;elemental plane of fire&quot; or anything -- it is a world where elemental forces are closer to the surface, and mixed up strangely.&nbsp; Rivers of fire, mountains of wind, griffons with ice wings and fire beaks -- all are fair game.&nbsp; There might be parts of it that are fire-heavy, but the &quot;pure elements&quot; aren't given special status.The Abyss is explicitly a region within the Elemental Chaos corrupted by a shard of &quot;pure evil&quot;.&nbsp; That shard was probably what gave Asmodeus the power to overthrow his deity and take over, in response the other gods trapped Asmodeus in Hell.As the higher planes (the domains of the gods) aren't given star status, there can be as many or as few as the DM wants.&nbsp; The dawn war pantheon doesn't line up with the traditional L/C N/G grid however.Fey and Shadow are &quot;adventurerable&quot; variants on Positive/Negative planes, and echos of the Prime.It was a pretty serious restructuring really.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8840378, member: 72555"] In 4e, there is Astral Sea, Ethereal, Far Realm, Fey, Shadow, Prime, Elemental Chaos. The Abyss is a part of the Elemental Chaos. The other "higher" planes are all pockets within the Astral Sea, including Hell. Hell is has been sealed. The Elemental Chaos isn't "elemental plane of fire" or anything -- it is a world where elemental forces are closer to the surface, and mixed up strangely. Rivers of fire, mountains of wind, griffons with ice wings and fire beaks -- all are fair game. There might be parts of it that are fire-heavy, but the "pure elements" aren't given special status. The Abyss is explicitly a region within the Elemental Chaos corrupted by a shard of "pure evil". That shard was probably what gave Asmodeus the power to overthrow his deity and take over, in response the other gods trapped Asmodeus in Hell. As the higher planes (the domains of the gods) aren't given star status, there can be as many or as few as the DM wants. The dawn war pantheon doesn't line up with the traditional L/C N/G grid however. Fey and Shadow are "adventurerable" variants on Positive/Negative planes, and echos of the Prime. It was a pretty serious restructuring really. [/QUOTE]

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