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<blockquote data-quote="grimslade" data-source="post: 8841009" data-attributes="member: 6061">Because the planes are boring when finite. Adding endless amounts of boredom does not suddenly spark joy.Or the plane has to have sections of 'not the plane' for adventures to be able to take place there.&nbsp; Why not just have the 'not the plane' then? Worked for the Shadowfell eating the negative energy plane.The problem with the Great Wheel Cosmology is that it is a literary device that requires a lot of jerry-rigging to make playable. Planescape put a lot of paragraphs and pages out trying to make it sing. 4E thought of its cosmology as a setting for actual play, not just exposition. It was a good try but had muddled success. Oddly enough, my favorite plane is the Ethereal. Border Ethereal and Deep Ethereal, blink dogs and ghosts, the shadowy gossamer mirror of our own world with strange denizens and haunted memories. The Shadowfell seems cluttered in comparison to me but links well to it. Both ethereal and astral feel like parts of the adventure while the end destinations of Outer and Inner planes seem to be lackluster.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="grimslade, post: 8841009, member: 6061"] Because the planes are boring when finite. Adding endless amounts of boredom does not suddenly spark joy. Or the plane has to have sections of 'not the plane' for adventures to be able to take place there. Why not just have the 'not the plane' then? Worked for the Shadowfell eating the negative energy plane. The problem with the Great Wheel Cosmology is that it is a literary device that requires a lot of jerry-rigging to make playable. Planescape put a lot of paragraphs and pages out trying to make it sing. 4E thought of its cosmology as a setting for actual play, not just exposition. It was a good try but had muddled success. Oddly enough, my favorite plane is the Ethereal. Border Ethereal and Deep Ethereal, blink dogs and ghosts, the shadowy gossamer mirror of our own world with strange denizens and haunted memories. The Shadowfell seems cluttered in comparison to me but links well to it. Both ethereal and astral feel like parts of the adventure while the end destinations of Outer and Inner planes seem to be lackluster. [/QUOTE]

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