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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9247166" data-attributes="member: 58172">[USER=6901101]@Scott Christian[/USER]I was unclear about your premise.I agree that it is problematic to try split up Athletics mobility into smaller subcomponents, such as Climb checks and Balance checks, between Strength and Dexterity.For this reason, one should use Strength Athletics to make any Balance checks, among any the other checks relating to mobility, including Jumping and landing a Jump (aka landing a Fall).Because Dexterity is already overpowered, it is worthwhile to give all mobility to Strength Athletics only. The tortured "Acrobatics" no longer exists.Your point about players investing in a concept, I also agree with. The character concept that specializes in agility including parkour, physical stunts, diving, speed, etcetera, can invest in Strength and proficiency and expertise in the Athletics skill. It is still possible for a low Strength character to gain training in Athletics even if lacking a talent for it.</blockquote>