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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 5590508" data-attributes="member: 51930">Is that an issue, tho...&nbsp; I mean, what are the bonuses in 3e with size&nbsp; Tiny, and what`s the average amount of bonus such characters can get&nbsp; (question mark not functioning, i`ll µ)would the system be hurt by having no size modifiers, I wonder.µ&nbsp;&nbsp;Or have a wider degree of what Small can cover, so I don`t have to use&nbsp; Tiny per se with all the associated modifiers, but just a range of&nbsp; `effectively Small` sizeµThe issue for balance for Tiny creatures is to *not* give them a Dex&nbsp; bonus or an Int bonus, then.&nbsp; Avoid the power flop in the one strategy.That said, I think it isn`t an issue having them severely weak in melee&nbsp; if they`re powerful at range.&nbsp; Wizards have had d4 HD for decades&nbsp; because of this.&nbsp; Just like there are races that are built for melee,&nbsp; like the Half-orc or the Goliath, or Pathfinder elf rogues or wizards,&nbsp; it isn`t a bad thing to have a race that`s tailored to be ranged or&nbsp; stealthy.Other than the Dex-AC issue, do Tiny characters break the game by being&nbsp; that small, like strategically.&nbsp; Maybe a Tiny archer riding a larger&nbsp; character, using their move actions to move around while firing off&nbsp; full-round action attacks.&nbsp; Or the ability to squeeze through Tiny sized&nbsp; spaces balanced against the lack of size Tiny magical items, that sort&nbsp; of thing.non-standard balance issues, basically.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 5590508, member: 51930"] Is that an issue, tho... I mean, what are the bonuses in 3e with size Tiny, and what`s the average amount of bonus such characters can get (question mark not functioning, i`ll µ) would the system be hurt by having no size modifiers, I wonder.µ Or have a wider degree of what Small can cover, so I don`t have to use Tiny per se with all the associated modifiers, but just a range of `effectively Small` sizeµ The issue for balance for Tiny creatures is to *not* give them a Dex bonus or an Int bonus, then. Avoid the power flop in the one strategy. That said, I think it isn`t an issue having them severely weak in melee if they`re powerful at range. Wizards have had d4 HD for decades because of this. Just like there are races that are built for melee, like the Half-orc or the Goliath, or Pathfinder elf rogues or wizards, it isn`t a bad thing to have a race that`s tailored to be ranged or stealthy. Other than the Dex-AC issue, do Tiny characters break the game by being that small, like strategically. Maybe a Tiny archer riding a larger character, using their move actions to move around while firing off full-round action attacks. Or the ability to squeeze through Tiny sized spaces balanced against the lack of size Tiny magical items, that sort of thing. non-standard balance issues, basically. [/QUOTE]

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