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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Piratecat" data-source="post: 4836252" data-attributes="member: 2">...design a skill challenge where first level heroes encounter a demon prince in the dungeon and live to tell the tale?From <a href="http://kotgl.blogspot.com/2008/10/skill-challenges-as-tool-for-putting.html" target="_blank">Mike Mearls' blog</a>, ages ago (thanks, Rechan):Skill Challenges as Tool for Putting Demogorgon on Dungeon Level 1 Here's a stray thought about skill challenges. Back in the 1e days, you'd hear all sorts of stories about dungeons where Orcus and Tiamat stomped around on level 1. Meeting those monsters is, obviously, instant death. In 4e, you could do the same thing, but if you want to give the PCs a chance to live, use the encounter as a skill challenge. You could even make it a level 1 (or whatever is appropriate) challenge to give the PCs a chance and work the big bad guy into the story. For instance, the PCs open a door to a summoning chamber in the abandoned wizard's lab, and out bursts Demogorgon. Before he returns to the Abyss, his two heads demand that the PCs do him a favor. Cue the skill challenge (success, you're in Demogorgon's debt; failure, he eats a few PCs). There's no reason why the superstars of D&D's monster world can't show up early in a campaign, and the skill challenge system is a good way to use them in situations other than combat.Okay, I love this idea. How might you carry it off?</blockquote>