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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8745826" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yeah, if anything, my experience was that, even with the higher RC DC table that higher level PCs pretty close to laugh off skill checks. I mean, definitely if you don't want to spend resources, and maybe if your a fighter with a low CHA and INT, and a mediocre WIS (which is a feasible build) you might be a bit of a brick in that department, even at level 20, but you WILL still have some nice powers and probably some items and whatnot that are going to be pretty useful. </p><p></p><p>Once I got into a game with some people who I knew from the WotC boards, it must have been around 2011, because MOST everything, including pretty much all the Essentials stuff, was out there. So, I just decided I'd make the most stupidly ridiculously Swiss Army Knife wizard. He had Wizard's Apprentice, and a Tome implement, and expanded spell book, and every ritual and consumable I could possibly get hold of. The character was preposterous. I mean, even at 1st level, I was finding ways to bypass virtually any skill check I didn't like. I never got a chance to play the character at high level, but things like Sage of Ages, some of the additional spell book swapping feats and whatnot could just make you crazy capable. And Bards are worse, a half-elf bard just laughs at skill checks.</p><p></p><p>So, yeah, you really have to get kinda creative to seriously challenge epic tier PCs in an SC. Its certainly doable, but those increased DCs that [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] mentioned were DEFINITELY intended to help deal with the sheer variety of ways you could get skill bonus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8745826, member: 82106"] Yeah, if anything, my experience was that, even with the higher RC DC table that higher level PCs pretty close to laugh off skill checks. I mean, definitely if you don't want to spend resources, and maybe if your a fighter with a low CHA and INT, and a mediocre WIS (which is a feasible build) you might be a bit of a brick in that department, even at level 20, but you WILL still have some nice powers and probably some items and whatnot that are going to be pretty useful. Once I got into a game with some people who I knew from the WotC boards, it must have been around 2011, because MOST everything, including pretty much all the Essentials stuff, was out there. So, I just decided I'd make the most stupidly ridiculously Swiss Army Knife wizard. He had Wizard's Apprentice, and a Tome implement, and expanded spell book, and every ritual and consumable I could possibly get hold of. The character was preposterous. I mean, even at 1st level, I was finding ways to bypass virtually any skill check I didn't like. I never got a chance to play the character at high level, but things like Sage of Ages, some of the additional spell book swapping feats and whatnot could just make you crazy capable. And Bards are worse, a half-elf bard just laughs at skill checks. So, yeah, you really have to get kinda creative to seriously challenge epic tier PCs in an SC. Its certainly doable, but those increased DCs that [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] mentioned were DEFINITELY intended to help deal with the sheer variety of ways you could get skill bonus. [/QUOTE]
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