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<blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 4167421" data-attributes="member: 33132">This is probably the reason why there's a DMG. To give DMs the advice they need to become good DMs. It's better to try to make DMs better than try to build a Bad-DM-proof system.Because a bad DM will still be bad, afterwards. But most DMs that are bad are not bad, because they want to be bad, but because they don't know better.And now I'm going to get into my soapbox:See, this system DOES require a DM who is able to make decisions on the fly and a player group that can live with that, not trying to outgame the DM constantly. But then, it's embracing the potential of D&amp;D - many people complaining about &quot;being like a MMORPG&quot; are afraid of MMORPGs, because they are NOT open-ended. The beauty of RPGs in general is there open-endedness and the human referee - which is able to make decisions on the fly.Sure, D&amp;D in hack'n'slash-style doesn't embrace that potential - but these groups won't need skill challenges that often, they will focus on combat or gloss over problems.But what makes RPGs ultimately good (open-endedness, room for your own character ideas and so on), only works with a good DM - and hence I rather see a system, that promotes being a good DM than a system that is bad DM-proof. Because good DMs are ultimately what holds a group together in the long run and makes groups enthusiastic enough to recruit new players.Cheers, LT.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WhatGravitas, post: 4167421, member: 33132"] This is probably the reason why there's a DMG. To give DMs the advice they need to become good DMs. It's better to try to make DMs better than try to build a Bad-DM-proof system. Because a bad DM will still be bad, afterwards. But most DMs that are bad are not bad, because they want to be bad, but because they don't know better. And now I'm going to get into my soapbox: See, this system DOES require a DM who is able to make decisions on the fly and a player group that can live with that, not trying to outgame the DM constantly. But then, it's embracing the potential of D&D - many people complaining about "being like a MMORPG" are afraid of MMORPGs, because they are NOT open-ended. The beauty of RPGs in general is there open-endedness and the human referee - which is able to make decisions on the fly. Sure, D&D in hack'n'slash-style doesn't embrace that potential - but these groups won't need skill challenges that often, they will focus on combat or gloss over problems. But what makes RPGs ultimately good (open-endedness, room for your own character ideas and so on), only works with a good DM - and hence I rather see a system, that promotes being a good DM than a system that is bad DM-proof. Because good DMs are ultimately what holds a group together in the long run and makes groups enthusiastic enough to recruit new players. Cheers, LT. [/QUOTE]

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