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<blockquote data-quote="Teemu" data-source="post: 8197607" data-attributes="member: 30788">Sure, but that's not very relevant when discussing the addition of 4e skill challenge rules into 5e. We should probably reference the final version that came out a whole decade ago.The basic structure of the skill challenge can imported without any issues since both editions use an extremely similar skill system. But because skill challenges at their core are simply an encounter calculator for social and exploration encounters (or those added into combat), we can't import the DCs.Imagine if the 5e encounter calculation didn't mention CR or take into consideration the impact of enemies beyond one. Imagine if the only thing provided was a table, telling us that Easy = 200 XP; Moderate = 1,800 XP; Hard = 5,900 XP; and Very Hard = 13,000 XP. Now go build encounters!Is Easy easy for what level? What is moderate for my level 8 party? No idea. That's how 5e skill DCs work currently, meaning that the rules offer 0 guidance on the difficulty of several checks combined, of different DCs. That's why it's basically impossible to use reliable skill challenges in 5e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Teemu, post: 8197607, member: 30788"] Sure, but that's not very relevant when discussing the addition of 4e skill challenge rules into 5e. We should probably reference the final version that came out a whole decade ago. The basic structure of the skill challenge can imported without any issues since both editions use an extremely similar skill system. But because skill challenges at their core are simply an encounter calculator for social and exploration encounters (or those added into combat), we can't import the DCs. Imagine if the 5e encounter calculation didn't mention CR or take into consideration the impact of enemies beyond one. Imagine if the only thing provided was a table, telling us that Easy = 200 XP; Moderate = 1,800 XP; Hard = 5,900 XP; and Very Hard = 13,000 XP. Now go build encounters! Is Easy easy for what level? What is moderate for my level 8 party? No idea. That's how 5e skill DCs work currently, meaning that the rules offer 0 guidance on the difficulty of several checks combined, of different DCs. That's why it's basically impossible to use reliable skill challenges in 5e. [/QUOTE]

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