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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7344724" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Movement rates are always an issue.According to RAW, a tracker moves at half speed when tracking, unless they take a serious negative to the skill check or have the Fast Tracker ability&nbsp; (Rangers get that at some point).But, as the tale of the Tortoise and the Hare points out, how fast you *can* move isn't always how fast you *do* move.&nbsp; That's where Endurance checks come it.&nbsp; And tactics.You know that your quarry needs water just like everyone else.&nbsp; If your Knowledge Geography or Knowledge Local check is good enough, you may know where they're heading, so you can try to cut them off.&nbsp; Anything they might do to lead you astray or to cover their tracks now plays against them, since it slows them down.In the chase scene I'd probably skip the X success v Y failures test, and go straight to a time challenge.&nbsp; Failures waste time.&nbsp; if you don't catch them before they get to that water hole, or their reinforcements, you can't catch them at all.&nbsp; Or perhaps you'll fall too far behind, or night will fall.&nbsp; Something that says &quot;Too late&quot;.The victory conditions should probably be one of several standard solutions, rather than always Success v Failure counts.So let's build a generic Skill Challenge.The party must achieve X before the adversary/situation reaches Y.My party is 7th level, so I want this to be CR 5.That suggests a Primary skill check DC, and a number of secondary Skill Check DCs.Award a 10% EXP bonus for full party participation, and a 10% Exp penalty if less than half contribute.So what should the DC of the primary skill check be, for a given Skill Challenge CR?What would be the DC of the Secondary skill checks?How many different secondary skills checks should there be?How many successful checks should be required to meet the Skill Challenge?What constitutes a failure?We need formulas or methods to answer these questions.&nbsp; Suggestions welcome.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7344724, member: 6669384"] Movement rates are always an issue. According to RAW, a tracker moves at half speed when tracking, unless they take a serious negative to the skill check or have the Fast Tracker ability (Rangers get that at some point). But, as the tale of the Tortoise and the Hare points out, how fast you *can* move isn't always how fast you *do* move. That's where Endurance checks come it. And tactics. You know that your quarry needs water just like everyone else. If your Knowledge Geography or Knowledge Local check is good enough, you may know where they're heading, so you can try to cut them off. Anything they might do to lead you astray or to cover their tracks now plays against them, since it slows them down. In the chase scene I'd probably skip the X success v Y failures test, and go straight to a time challenge. Failures waste time. if you don't catch them before they get to that water hole, or their reinforcements, you can't catch them at all. Or perhaps you'll fall too far behind, or night will fall. Something that says "Too late". The victory conditions should probably be one of several standard solutions, rather than always Success v Failure counts. So let's build a generic Skill Challenge. The party must achieve X before the adversary/situation reaches Y. My party is 7th level, so I want this to be CR 5. That suggests a Primary skill check DC, and a number of secondary Skill Check DCs. Award a 10% EXP bonus for full party participation, and a 10% Exp penalty if less than half contribute. So what should the DC of the primary skill check be, for a given Skill Challenge CR? What would be the DC of the Secondary skill checks? How many different secondary skills checks should there be? How many successful checks should be required to meet the Skill Challenge? What constitutes a failure? We need formulas or methods to answer these questions. Suggestions welcome. [/QUOTE]

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