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<blockquote data-quote="Rune" data-source="post: 5382196" data-attributes="member: 67">That has certainly been my experience, as well.&nbsp; I was very excited about the concept of skill challenges when 4e first came out, but when played by the book they invariably turn into, &quot;It's my turn?&nbsp; I roll my best applicable skill check.&nbsp; If I'm not trained, I'll aid another.&quot;What I've done for one of my groups (the non-tactics focused group) is simply assume passive checks for all skills in most situations (opposed checks or attacks being an important exception) so I can just look at a number and say, &quot;now, get back to roleplaying.&nbsp; I don't typically use formal skill-challenges, but I do keep the structure in mind as I'm interpreting the results.Even outside of challenges, even with physical abilities, and even in combat, I don't have a problem with the passive numbers.&nbsp; I want to see the monk jumping around and gracefully landing on the ground.&nbsp; I want he knowledgeable characters to&nbsp; know things about their surroundings.&nbsp; I want the high-perception characters to notice details that will make their environment more rich.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rune, post: 5382196, member: 67"] That has certainly been my experience, as well. I was very excited about the concept of skill challenges when 4e first came out, but when played by the book they invariably turn into, "It's my turn? I roll my best applicable skill check. If I'm not trained, I'll aid another." What I've done for one of my groups (the non-tactics focused group) is simply assume passive checks for all skills in [i]most[/i] situations (opposed checks or attacks being an important exception) so I can just look at a number and say, "now, get back to roleplaying. I don't typically use formal skill-challenges, but I do keep the structure in mind as I'm interpreting the results. Even outside of challenges, even with physical abilities, and even in combat, I don't have a problem with the passive numbers. I [i]want[/i] to see the monk jumping around and gracefully landing on the ground. I [i]want[/i] he knowledgeable characters to know things about their surroundings. I [i]want[/i] the high-perception characters to notice details that will make their environment more rich. [/QUOTE]

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