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<blockquote data-quote="surfarcher" data-source="post: 5385956" data-attributes="member: 84774">You should bother because you have emotional buy-in.&nbsp; Because your DM has presented the scenario so that you want to succeed and use a number of resources to achieve that success.&nbsp; It's not all abotu skills mate.If a skill check doesn't have any buy-in from you you won't be proactive.&nbsp; If it does you will. Simple.To put it another way.&nbsp; If you care about your goal you will pull out the stops to get to it.&nbsp; If you don't care about it then you won't try and damn the consequences.Without being a smart ass or trying to offend anyone - &quot;crossing the wilderness&quot; isn't worthy of a challenge.&nbsp; You don't have a goal besides survival.How about we make it something like one of these?<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Find the hidden glade in the wilderness before the spring half-moon&nbsp; opens it's keystone allowing retrieval of the sacred balm.. Once closed&nbsp; it will not open for another year.&nbsp; The balm, of course, being critical&nbsp; to you party goal.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Find the grotto in which the princess is bound before she is sacrificed.</li>
</ul>If you have buy-in to one of these you will care about anything that threatens to halt your timely progress.&nbsp; And you will proactively try to address that thing.&nbsp; Whether it be hostiles, a mudslide barring your path or whatever.Psht why should you care about the accounting mechanic used behind the scenes?&nbsp; Does your DM announce &quot;this is a combat&quot; every time you see a monster?&nbsp; I'd resent being told how I have to resolve that kind of encounter.&nbsp; What if I want to use another way to get past them?&nbsp; Shouldn't that be my choice?And who said they are trying to &quot;hide it&quot;?&nbsp; That doesn't mean we have to hti our players about the head with the fact.Create a sense of urgency and get PC buy-in and that will be the case.&nbsp; That has been my experience.And I can't recall ever coming across a DM who tells me they and their players love SCs, but who broadcasts the mechnic to his group.Still, you and your group might be different.Ahmen!&nbsp; Where our opinions differ here is whether an accounting mechanic is really a relevant detail.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="surfarcher, post: 5385956, member: 84774"] You should bother because you have emotional buy-in. Because your DM has presented the scenario so that you want to succeed and use a number of resources to achieve that success. It's not all abotu skills mate. If a skill check doesn't have any buy-in from you you won't be proactive. If it does you will. Simple. To put it another way. If you care about your goal you will pull out the stops to get to it. If you don't care about it then you won't try and damn the consequences. Without being a smart ass or trying to offend anyone - "crossing the wilderness" isn't worthy of a challenge. You don't have a goal besides survival. How about we make it something like one of these? [LIST] [*]Find the hidden glade in the wilderness before the spring half-moon opens it's keystone allowing retrieval of the sacred balm.. Once closed it will not open for another year. The balm, of course, being critical to you party goal. [*]Find the grotto in which the princess is bound before she is sacrificed. [/LIST] If you have buy-in to one of these you [I]will[/I] care about anything that threatens to halt your timely progress. And you [I]will[/I] proactively try to address that thing. Whether it be hostiles, a mudslide barring your path or whatever. Psht why should you care about the accounting mechanic used behind the scenes? Does your DM announce "this is a combat" every time you see a monster? I'd resent being told how I have to resolve that kind of encounter. What if I want to use another way to get past them? Shouldn't that be my choice? And who said they are trying to "hide it"? That doesn't mean we have to hti our players about the head with the fact. Create a sense of urgency and get PC buy-in and that will be the case. That has been my experience. And I can't recall ever coming across a DM who tells me they and their players love SCs, but who broadcasts the mechnic to his group. Still, you and your group might be different. Ahmen! Where our opinions differ here is whether an accounting mechanic is really a relevant detail. [/QUOTE]

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