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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6764766" data-attributes="member: 27160">Thanks! The advantage/token stuff is actually just a bit of an extension on what is already in the rules, designed to add a bit of flexibility and make the GM's job in the game more clear/delineated. Tokens come from the set number of "hard" DCs in a challenge, per the RC rules - the GM gets one token per "hard" DC and can choose to use it to make a DC hard, or to apply one of a range of other effects both to inject their own aesthetic into the challenge and to represent "opposition" to the PCs in non-combat situations. The lack of such "opposition" was always something that bugged me about Skill Challenges, as originally written.You could use temporary loss - either delayed treasure or inoperable items for a time - but I'm finding that in the context of a multi-level campaign simple removal works fine for a few reasons:1) A portion of the treasure is balanced out to be for rituals or other "consumables" in any case, and there is the "sell (old) items for 20% of cost" thing as well, meaning that there is a fair amount of "wastage" built into the system to begin with.2) Because item values multiply by 5 every 5 levels (broadly), losses of a few levels ago become pretty much irrelevant. The current "party worth" is dominated by the at-level items; "old" items swiftly become kibble, in the greater scheme of things.If you just give out treasure parcels according to the DMG guidelines, a pretty large margin of variation creeps in, so obsessing about the value of the party's gear is really not necessary. The loss of an item (or equivalent wealth) is a serious cost - as skill challenge losses should be - but it's not detrimental to game play in the longer term.I should probably mention that we don't use the "Item Rarity" guff - I just add 5 to the level of "Rare" items. They are no longer PC creatable at their old level, and sell for the same as an item of its original level would. Job done. We still use Daily Item Uses - which makes for another useful currency in Skill Challenges <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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