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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5464993" data-attributes="member: 1210">Or maybe he'll spend some skill points in Diplomacy.Should the wizard with a 3 Strength be able to shove the giant boulder out of the way because his player lifts weights?If you ignore the low stat when it's Charisma you have pretty much made it a meaningless stat.In the example you mentioned in your post, the dm can always give an arbitrary +2 bonus or something, but even that makes players less likely to invest in social skills or Charisma.  And there's nothing wrong with that- until you have a guy who does invest in them, where the player isn't a good speaker but the pc has an 18 Cha and +15 Diplomacy.  And he gets out-talked by the used car salesman playing a Cha 7 half-orc with no social skills, not even Intimidate.</blockquote>