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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6060207"><p>When multiple players are doing something wherein skill checks are required, ALL players much make the check.</p><p></p><p>Your party is travling through Caradhras, it is incredibly cold and they must make fortitude checks. ALL players much make these checks and the overall pace of the party is set by the slowest. Other players may assist the weaker ones in some way, but it is only assistance.</p><p></p><p>When the whole party is involved in something, the whole party must make checks. If members of the party cannot reasonably make the checks, then the party needs to take that into account.</p><p></p><p>EX: the armor-clad paladin has difficulty climbing because of all their armor. There is no way for them to succeed the check because of it. How do we resolve this?</p><p>The rest of the party could haul him up, basically making a different check in place of the Paladin's "climb" check(I'm aware Climb doesn't exist in 4e, but bear with me).</p><p>The Paladin could remove their armor, much less encumbered now that it is stored, the Paladin can make the check.</p><p>The party could cast a spell on the Paladin to allow them to fly(insert other forms of flying the party up the cliff instead).</p><p></p><p>OR:</p><p>The halfling will freeze in the cold weather.</p><p>The party purchases extra-heavy clothing for the halfling, giving them a bonus to their checks.</p><p>The party casts a magical spell on the halfling, giving him resistence to cold, and thus, a bonus to his checks.</p><p></p><p>I NEVER allow a single party member to make a check for the entire party, when every member of the party is affected by the situation. That would be like allowing the Sorcerer with the high will save to make the save for everyone against a Banshee's wail(3.5/PFD). If the whole party must participate, then every member must make their checks.</p><p></p><p>However, for issues like tracking, it's perfectly fine for one member of the party to make all the checks. Why shouldn't the cleric take the lead in matters of religion? Why shouldn't the druid handle nature stuff?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6060207"] When multiple players are doing something wherein skill checks are required, ALL players much make the check. Your party is travling through Caradhras, it is incredibly cold and they must make fortitude checks. ALL players much make these checks and the overall pace of the party is set by the slowest. Other players may assist the weaker ones in some way, but it is only assistance. When the whole party is involved in something, the whole party must make checks. If members of the party cannot reasonably make the checks, then the party needs to take that into account. EX: the armor-clad paladin has difficulty climbing because of all their armor. There is no way for them to succeed the check because of it. How do we resolve this? The rest of the party could haul him up, basically making a different check in place of the Paladin's "climb" check(I'm aware Climb doesn't exist in 4e, but bear with me). The Paladin could remove their armor, much less encumbered now that it is stored, the Paladin can make the check. The party could cast a spell on the Paladin to allow them to fly(insert other forms of flying the party up the cliff instead). OR: The halfling will freeze in the cold weather. The party purchases extra-heavy clothing for the halfling, giving them a bonus to their checks. The party casts a magical spell on the halfling, giving him resistence to cold, and thus, a bonus to his checks. I NEVER allow a single party member to make a check for the entire party, when every member of the party is affected by the situation. That would be like allowing the Sorcerer with the high will save to make the save for everyone against a Banshee's wail(3.5/PFD). If the whole party must participate, then every member must make their checks. However, for issues like tracking, it's perfectly fine for one member of the party to make all the checks. Why shouldn't the cleric take the lead in matters of religion? Why shouldn't the druid handle nature stuff? [/QUOTE]
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