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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6061566" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>And I quoted the rules that indicate (i) that successes in a skill challenge need not (though typically do) come from using skills, and (ii) that abilities other than skills, such as attack powers, may be used in a skill challenge.</p><p></p><p>My point was that your example B, which disregarded those parts of the rules, is therefore not just poor GMing skill but a GM who is disregarding the rules in the interests of making the game suck.</p><p></p><p>Agreed. In my own experience, they also do a lot to support strong pacing without requiring GM fiat/force to achieve it.</p><p></p><p>No matter how wonderful a PC's attack in combat, and how brilliant both the idea and narration behind it, it cannot kill a monster or NPC on full hit points. A skill challenge is the same. In both cases, the GM's job is to narrate so as to account for the outcome.</p><p></p><p>In this respect, a skill challenge is no different from a HeroWars/Quest extended contest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6061566, member: 42582"] And I quoted the rules that indicate (i) that successes in a skill challenge need not (though typically do) come from using skills, and (ii) that abilities other than skills, such as attack powers, may be used in a skill challenge. My point was that your example B, which disregarded those parts of the rules, is therefore not just poor GMing skill but a GM who is disregarding the rules in the interests of making the game suck. Agreed. In my own experience, they also do a lot to support strong pacing without requiring GM fiat/force to achieve it. No matter how wonderful a PC's attack in combat, and how brilliant both the idea and narration behind it, it cannot kill a monster or NPC on full hit points. A skill challenge is the same. In both cases, the GM's job is to narrate so as to account for the outcome. In this respect, a skill challenge is no different from a HeroWars/Quest extended contest. [/QUOTE]
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