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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 5165117" data-attributes="member: 386">Yup.I imagine that will happen if you don't take steps to prevent it. I want it to reward players unevenly, so that's good.&nbsp; I'm not so sure that it will take a very, very long time to declare actions; it's possible, I guess, but I don't see it going back and forth that often.&nbsp; Do you have an example of a situation that could turn out like that?You can't do what you can't do.&nbsp; If you're a Fighter it doesn't matter how you describe your action, if the hobgoblin fighting you doesn't move and doesn't hit someone else, you're not getting an OA or your Combat Challenge.If that happens, the PCs will get dogpiled and killed, just like you said!&nbsp; In the first example (rogue and fighter vs. hobgoblin), the rogue saying &quot;I hit it with my dagger&quot; would have missed, since that's an attack against AC instead of Ref, and he wouldn't have had the +2 for flanking.&nbsp; What's more, the rogue can't say, &quot;I flank him and use Deft Strike&quot; because &quot;Deft Strike&quot; doesn't mean anything.&nbsp; No one can respond to &quot;Deft Strike&quot; the way they can respond to &quot;I stab him with my stiletto through a weak point in his armour&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 5165117, member: 386"] Yup. I imagine that will happen if you don't take steps to prevent it. I want it to reward players unevenly, so that's good. I'm not so sure that it will take a very, very long time to declare actions; it's possible, I guess, but I don't see it going back and forth that often. Do you have an example of a situation that could turn out like that? You can't do what you can't do. If you're a Fighter it doesn't matter how you describe your action, if the hobgoblin fighting you doesn't move and doesn't hit someone else, you're not getting an OA or your Combat Challenge. If that happens, the PCs will get dogpiled and killed, just like you said! In the first example (rogue and fighter vs. hobgoblin), the rogue saying "I hit it with my dagger" would have missed, since that's an attack against AC instead of Ref, and he wouldn't have had the +2 for flanking. What's more, the rogue can't say, "I flank him and use Deft Strike" because "Deft Strike" doesn't mean anything. No one can respond to "Deft Strike" the way they can respond to "I stab him with my stiletto through a weak point in his armour". [/QUOTE]

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