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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 5166226" data-attributes="member: 386">The first step would be avoiding those dangerous situations.The second step would be taking defensive actions - like running around a corner or ducking beneath something or someone else.The third step would be killing them first or otherwise taking some action that invalidates theirs.&nbsp; (&quot;I cast magic missle, hitting the hand that's holding the arrow, making him drop it.&quot;)There's nothing to negotiate there.&nbsp; &quot;I move out of the flank&quot; is the action, and we roll dice to see if it works or not.&nbsp; If Z rolls higher than X or Y (since it takes two to flank), he's not flanked.He can say that, but that is the sort of thing that should be clear when you're declaring actions.&nbsp; That's one of the reasons you need to be specific when declaring actions, one of the reasons why &quot;I stab him with my sword&quot; isn't going to cut it.I also plan on using minis!That's true.&nbsp; I actually meant the Rogue At-Will that hits Ref instead of AC.&nbsp; Whoops. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; I guess Deft Strike would allow you to do something like dart in and out of cover, or reach someone normally out of range.Nothing.&nbsp; However, how each monster responds to that attack is going to be different.&nbsp; It wouldn't make much sense against an ooze, for example.&nbsp; Against a hobgoblin I might say something like, &quot;As you stab into his exposed underarm he pins your weapon arm with his.&quot;&nbsp; Against an orc berserker I might say, &quot;He takes the hit, trusting to his armour, and grabs your arm, holding you there.&quot;In the next round, if those monster actions succeeded, the Rogue can't say &quot;I flank him and stab him through a weak point in his armour.&quot;&nbsp; Why not?&nbsp; Because his arm is pinned or grabbed.&nbsp; In the orc example he might say something like, &quot;I twist my dagger in his gut&quot; (assuming the Rogue hit), or something else.&nbsp; Who knows.&nbsp; And the orc's action might be &quot;He chops your exposed arm off.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 5166226, member: 386"] The first step would be avoiding those dangerous situations. The second step would be taking defensive actions - like running around a corner or ducking beneath something or someone else. The third step would be killing them first or otherwise taking some action that invalidates theirs. ("I cast magic missle, hitting the hand that's holding the arrow, making him drop it.") There's nothing to negotiate there. "I move out of the flank" is the action, and we roll dice to see if it works or not. If Z rolls higher than X or Y (since it takes two to flank), he's not flanked. He can say that, but that is the sort of thing that should be clear when you're declaring actions. That's one of the reasons you need to be specific when declaring actions, one of the reasons why "I stab him with my sword" isn't going to cut it. I also plan on using minis! That's true. I actually meant the Rogue At-Will that hits Ref instead of AC. Whoops. :) I guess Deft Strike would allow you to do something like dart in and out of cover, or reach someone normally out of range. Nothing. However, how each monster responds to that attack is going to be different. It wouldn't make much sense against an ooze, for example. Against a hobgoblin I might say something like, "As you stab into his exposed underarm he pins your weapon arm with his." Against an orc berserker I might say, "He takes the hit, trusting to his armour, and grabs your arm, holding you there." In the next round, if those monster actions succeeded, the Rogue can't say "I flank him and stab him through a weak point in his armour." Why not? Because his arm is pinned or grabbed. In the orc example he might say something like, "I twist my dagger in his gut" (assuming the Rogue hit), or something else. Who knows. And the orc's action might be "He chops your exposed arm off." [/QUOTE]

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