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<blockquote data-quote="Wyvern" data-source="post: 7750276" data-attributes="member: 2374"><p>I have mixed feelings about this. I read the description of what Legendary characters can do, and my first reaction is that it sounds ridiculously over-the-top. Then again, I've never played in an epic-level game, and I don't really have any desire to. But some people enjoy that sort of thing. To some people, being ridiculously over-the-top is the whole <strong>point</strong> of epic-level play. Who am I to tell them they can't play the game they want to? Isn't there room for both? If you don't like that sort of thing, there's an extremely simple solution: don't play an epic level game.</p><p></p><p>Now, I get that some people would rather not have that sort of thing in the game at all. And there's nothing wrong with having an opinion, and with stating it -- as someone else suggested, one reason Paizo is posting these tidbits is to gauge people's reactions. And <em>not</em> wanting to see ridiculously over-the-top feats in the game is just as valid an opinion as wanting them. But some of you have progressed beyond stating your opinions to bludgeoning people over the head with them. To those who think that non-spellcasting characters shouldn't be capable of these things, I have a few questions:</p><p></p><p>- What's <strong>your</strong> benchmark for epic-level characters? In other words, if you think the examples of Legendary feats in the OP are beyond the pale, what do you think an epic-level character <em>should</em> be able to accomplish without the aid of magic?</p><p></p><p>- Would you allow something like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSHUC_UBDEw&t=12s" target="_blank">this</a> in an epic-level game? If so, under what conditions?</p><p></p><p>- What would you make of a character who, according to legend, could survive nine days without breathing or sleeping, grow as tall as a tree, radiate heat from his hands, and strike blows with a sword that could not be healed? Would you call them a superhero? A demigod? A wizard?</p><p></p><p>[sblock]</p><p>The person I'm describing is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Kay" target="_blank">Sir Kay</a>.</p><p></p><p>You know, this guy:</p><p></p><p><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/1/15/Sword-disneyscreencaps_com-339.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/516" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wyvern, post: 7750276, member: 2374"] I have mixed feelings about this. I read the description of what Legendary characters can do, and my first reaction is that it sounds ridiculously over-the-top. Then again, I've never played in an epic-level game, and I don't really have any desire to. But some people enjoy that sort of thing. To some people, being ridiculously over-the-top is the whole [B]point[/B] of epic-level play. Who am I to tell them they can't play the game they want to? Isn't there room for both? If you don't like that sort of thing, there's an extremely simple solution: don't play an epic level game. Now, I get that some people would rather not have that sort of thing in the game at all. And there's nothing wrong with having an opinion, and with stating it -- as someone else suggested, one reason Paizo is posting these tidbits is to gauge people's reactions. And [I]not[/I] wanting to see ridiculously over-the-top feats in the game is just as valid an opinion as wanting them. But some of you have progressed beyond stating your opinions to bludgeoning people over the head with them. To those who think that non-spellcasting characters shouldn't be capable of these things, I have a few questions: - What's [B]your[/B] benchmark for epic-level characters? In other words, if you think the examples of Legendary feats in the OP are beyond the pale, what do you think an epic-level character [I]should[/I] be able to accomplish without the aid of magic? - Would you allow something like [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSHUC_UBDEw&t=12s"]this[/URL] in an epic-level game? If so, under what conditions? - What would you make of a character who, according to legend, could survive nine days without breathing or sleeping, grow as tall as a tree, radiate heat from his hands, and strike blows with a sword that could not be healed? Would you call them a superhero? A demigod? A wizard? [sblock] The person I'm describing is [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Kay"]Sir Kay[/URL]. You know, this guy: [IMG]https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/1/15/Sword-disneyscreencaps_com-339.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/516[/IMG] [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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