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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7750522" data-attributes="member: 4937">*yawn* Weak.What you began ranting about in this thread was the idea that high level characters being super-heroic was a "trivialization of the fantasy genera".  I can quote the whole post if you like, but it doesn't really matter because it's still there for everyone to read.In my game of D&D, a 13th level Monk has had the ability to fall an infinite distance and take no damage since like 1978.  The ability to do this was generally presented as an act of skill.  And in my game of D&D, an 8th level fighter was a "superhero" who could among other things reliably survive falling from heights that would kill any realistic normal person.  But that was ok, because he was in fact a "superhero".The problem with your rant is that you seem to be OK with certain classes achieving levels of power that are obviously superheroic as long as in your head you can give some plausible excuse, where just saying something like "magic" or "ki" or whatever is enough for you to nod along and say, "Oh, that's plausible."   But if I don't say the magic words, somehow it's not plausible and instead it is a "joke in your eyes".And frankly, that's ridiculous.  There is as I have been pointing out all manner of plausible reasons why you wouldn't expect a fantasy game to be a realistic simulation of real life.  And further there are all manner of reasons for wanting all classes upon obtaining high level to be on the same tier, and not have some classes nigh demigods and other classes strictly limited to what is realistic.  There is nothing mundane about any character that is 15th level.  They may not be magical, and they may have obtained their power through non-magical means, but they are not mundane because mundanity got left behind about 10 levels ago.   Thus a character of that level may have fantastic skills and abilities, far beyond what any realistic character may have, simply because it is a fantasy.  You are like Vizzini, except carrying on about "implausible" and "implausible" that, when in fact that word does not mean what you think it means.But what is even more ridiculous is rejecting that what I have said makes sense in a context relevant to what you did in fact say as if you didn't say it.   Further, no one really cares whether you stamp your foot and petulantly declare for like the third time that you have no desire to continue the conversation.</blockquote>

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