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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9705455" data-attributes="member: 7006">If one has a good DM who understands the situation you talk about... you as a player DO know what you can and can't do even with "non-rule" skills (as you put it) because the DM will be consistent with what they allow and plus care more about making a fun and interesting game than trying to hardline the rules.Now perhaps you've never played with a DM like that?  I don't know.  But I can say from experience that I have, and I'd much rather just play in a game where I can simply think of ideas off the top of my head of what I'd like to see my character and the group's characters try to do, and then the DM just making a ruling in the moment of "Okay, you can try that, make a X check"... rather than have my head buried in my character sheet constantly scanning the same list of abilities over and over again trying to find something to accomplish from the select list.  But that's me.  I will always select "improv" over "board game" when it comes to roleplaying games.  But YMMV.</blockquote>