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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7617188" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>While a few people already responded, I have to say there is a big difference in every respect. Doing a walking handstand does require a lot of balance, but it also requires enormous strength. Few acrobats/gymnasts are weak by any standards. There are many times when Strength (Acrobatics) would be more appropriate than Dexterity (Acrobatics) and many circumstances when Dexterity (Athletics) is more appropriate than Strength (Athletics). That is why our group "unlinked" ability scores and skills. As the core books describe, everything is an ability check and sometimes a skill applies. It is up to the DM to determine when.As for passive skills, it works great and makes much more sense than the system as is. First, observant makes you better due to the +5 bonus when you AREN'T looking than when you are! How does that work?!? Secondly, if players state they are looking then everything works normally anyway, and if they aren't, a good passive score gives them a chance to notice something even when not actively looking. Nothing should be automatic in D&D IMO and it works well for our group. No one, and I seriously mean NO ONE, has ever complained or felt using passive skills RAW makes sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7617188, member: 6987520"] While a few people already responded, I have to say there is a big difference in every respect. Doing a walking handstand does require a lot of balance, but it also requires enormous strength. Few acrobats/gymnasts are weak by any standards. There are many times when Strength (Acrobatics) would be more appropriate than Dexterity (Acrobatics) and many circumstances when Dexterity (Athletics) is more appropriate than Strength (Athletics). That is why our group "unlinked" ability scores and skills. As the core books describe, everything is an ability check and sometimes a skill applies. It is up to the DM to determine when.As for passive skills, it works great and makes much more sense than the system as is. First, observant makes you better due to the +5 bonus when you AREN'T looking than when you are! How does that work?!? Secondly, if players state they are looking then everything works normally anyway, and if they aren't, a good passive score gives them a chance to notice something even when not actively looking. Nothing should be automatic in D&D IMO and it works well for our group. No one, and I seriously mean NO ONE, has ever complained or felt using passive skills RAW makes sense. [/QUOTE]
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