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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JBeatnik" data-source="post: 4302706" data-attributes="member: 69262">on forgery, I would make it a combined skill check between Perception (understanding the nuances of a person's handwriting, the format and style of a document) and thievery (for sleight of hand, manual dexterity)basically, you have a complex skill check which involves a DC to study the original document (a requirement for the forgery) and a DC to create the forged document. Your perception check gives you a +/- to your Thievery check (forgery) but you have to beat the minimum DC of 20. Here is a table I'd probably use:Perception:DC 20 (25?) minimum to be able to understand document enough to make a reasonable copy.+2 circumstance bonus if you have multiple documents.You may be aided by the following skill checks, each providing a +2 bonus:History: DC 20 - history check of the type of government, who or what group creates the documents, royal seals, signatures, etc. (this check is only available for historical and governmental documents)Insight: DC 20 - knowledge of the race/clan/tribe the document comes from (only for racial sub groups), must know language and/or have experienced the culture.Religion: DC 20 - Religious texts, internal church documents, any sort of general scribing done by church scribes.Streetwise: DC 20 - documents of guilds (thieves guilds), street documents (commerce/trade), letters of credit, general documents found in the underground economy, etc etc.As you can see, most documents will only fall under 1 of these skill checks. But it puts the Forgery as a mini-skill encounter, but allows for a second party member to input into the encounter.--------------The second part of this check is the actual Thievery check for the manual dexterity required for forging.For every 5 DC the Forger beats the Perception check by, he gets a +2 to the Thievery check.Ok, now on the other end, this forgery is subjected to a passive peception check by anyone viewing it. If they have reasonable suspicion, they are able to make an active perception check with a DC equal to the Thievery Check of the documents forger. As you can see, when you really put the time and effort into forging the document, this DC could be 20+ or more.</blockquote>

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