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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1146944" data-attributes="member: 4134"><p>Shouldn't this be in House Rules?</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Not a big deal, since it favors anyone. If you want to do this because the charactes need more background skills, you may say that these have to be knowledge, craft, or profession skills (maybe also allow it on cross-class skills).</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>I don't like this at all. If you want those skills as class skills, take a class that has them. Otherwise you have to buy them as cross-class skills. (You can have a tumbling wizard or a barbarian with diplomacy, after all. They're just not as good in it as others). Giving away free class skills goes against the class concept of D&D IMO. It is about choices, about strengths and weaknesses.</p><p></p><p>Too general IMO, but an extension would certainly be in order. While I don't see a fighter as the great historian, he can get knowledge about dungeoneering or his home region.</p><p></p><p>As it should be, but don't forget about general knowledge. If you don't have these knowledge(local) skill ranks, you still know where the tavern is, and where you can get food and the like, but you don't know that this comely lass is the cousin of the mayor, or that the tavern owner and the store owner are distant relatives. You might not even know the name of the tavern owner. The name of the town 3 miles to the south might not be known to you, either (and you might not even know that there is a gnome settlement only one mile to the east, in a little valley)</p><p></p><p>Note that as starting character, you can have 4 ranks tops in KL. So rules-wise, you just can't know all there is to know about your home region. And characters get other information without gaining skill ranks: You might ask the tavern owner in Waterdeep his name, or Gather Information about the Lords. You stumble upon stores and market places. But still you won't get free ranks in K(Waterdeep). (or do you forget the stuff again at once unless you have ranks in it?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 1146944, member: 4134"] Shouldn't this be in House Rules? [B] Not a big deal, since it favors anyone. If you want to do this because the charactes need more background skills, you may say that these have to be knowledge, craft, or profession skills (maybe also allow it on cross-class skills). [/B] I don't like this at all. If you want those skills as class skills, take a class that has them. Otherwise you have to buy them as cross-class skills. (You can have a tumbling wizard or a barbarian with diplomacy, after all. They're just not as good in it as others). Giving away free class skills goes against the class concept of D&D IMO. It is about choices, about strengths and weaknesses. Too general IMO, but an extension would certainly be in order. While I don't see a fighter as the great historian, he can get knowledge about dungeoneering or his home region. As it should be, but don't forget about general knowledge. If you don't have these knowledge(local) skill ranks, you still know where the tavern is, and where you can get food and the like, but you don't know that this comely lass is the cousin of the mayor, or that the tavern owner and the store owner are distant relatives. You might not even know the name of the tavern owner. The name of the town 3 miles to the south might not be known to you, either (and you might not even know that there is a gnome settlement only one mile to the east, in a little valley) Note that as starting character, you can have 4 ranks tops in KL. So rules-wise, you just can't know all there is to know about your home region. And characters get other information without gaining skill ranks: You might ask the tavern owner in Waterdeep his name, or Gather Information about the Lords. You stumble upon stores and market places. But still you won't get free ranks in K(Waterdeep). (or do you forget the stuff again at once unless you have ranks in it?) [/QUOTE]
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