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<blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 1061806" data-attributes="member: 713"><p>I can see it being used for almost all of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ever seen someone learning on the balance beam? Someone could lend a helping hand, provide a little extra stability to the person attempting to balance.</p><p></p><p></p><p>PC1: "You really shouldn't do that, or the snark's will eat you up!"</p><p>PC2: "Yeah, I heard about them snarks, real nasty critters they are!"</p><p></p><p>Sounds like an Aid Another. Standard part of many cons, having a college feed you questions or agree with you while you are trying to convince the mark of something.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Giving a hand up as you attempt to climb, or pulling you up by the ropes as you attempt to climb.</p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, I'm having trouble imagining a case where this could happen..</p><p></p><p></p><p>Most definately should be allowed. It is one of the main skills I used Aid Another with.</p><p></p><p>Someone could hold the wire as you cut it, help steady something, pry on the opposite side as you pry on your side, or any number of other ways where an extra hand or two could make all the difference.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p>Help compare documents, trying to find the best one to copy from. Crosscheck each other's work, make sure there are no obvious errors.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Given time, I would allow this. You help position them and camoflauge them, they can still mess it up by moving too much or something.</p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, another one where I'm having trouble coming up with an example..</p><p></p><p></p><p>You've never brainstormed with friends, trying to remember something that both of you are knowledgeable about?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Look at the new familiar description in the 3.5 revision. Instead of giving alertness, the familiar now does Aid Another on the sense rolls.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Here, let me tie this down for you. It is jingling as you walk. Now try again..."</p><p></p><p></p><p>See disable device, same situation.</p><p></p><p>There are all sorts of ways an extra set of hands could help with opening locks. Even a strong shoulder (to press against the door so it doesn't move) could help in some cases.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Never heard of best supporting actor? How about background music?</p><p></p><p></p><p>If they were both on the same creature, I could see allowing it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Have to think about this one. In general, probably wouldn't allow it. On the other hand, I wouldn't rule it out completely.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. Just provide a distraction while the other person is doing the slight of hand.</p><p></p><p>If they are concealing something on a person, it would be a case of double-checking each others work as suggested for forgery.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If the people could quickly communicate, I would allow it for the spell just being cast.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't allow it on a counterspell unless both had readied an action against the same spellcaster and could communicate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See the familiars section.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ever heard of a lifeguard?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I admit that I'm having trouble imagining a case for this one as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would put this as a maybe. Someone else calling out suggestions ("Have you tried crossing your fingers while twitching your nose?") to the person attempting it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would allow it in a lot more cases than you would, evidently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bret, post: 1061806, member: 713"] I can see it being used for almost all of them. Ever seen someone learning on the balance beam? Someone could lend a helping hand, provide a little extra stability to the person attempting to balance. PC1: "You really shouldn't do that, or the snark's will eat you up!" PC2: "Yeah, I heard about them snarks, real nasty critters they are!" Sounds like an Aid Another. Standard part of many cons, having a college feed you questions or agree with you while you are trying to convince the mark of something. Giving a hand up as you attempt to climb, or pulling you up by the ropes as you attempt to climb. OK, I'm having trouble imagining a case where this could happen.. Most definately should be allowed. It is one of the main skills I used Aid Another with. Someone could hold the wire as you cut it, help steady something, pry on the opposite side as you pry on your side, or any number of other ways where an extra hand or two could make all the difference. Yes. Help compare documents, trying to find the best one to copy from. Crosscheck each other's work, make sure there are no obvious errors. Given time, I would allow this. You help position them and camoflauge them, they can still mess it up by moving too much or something. OK, another one where I'm having trouble coming up with an example.. You've never brainstormed with friends, trying to remember something that both of you are knowledgeable about? Look at the new familiar description in the 3.5 revision. Instead of giving alertness, the familiar now does Aid Another on the sense rolls. "Here, let me tie this down for you. It is jingling as you walk. Now try again..." See disable device, same situation. There are all sorts of ways an extra set of hands could help with opening locks. Even a strong shoulder (to press against the door so it doesn't move) could help in some cases. Never heard of best supporting actor? How about background music? If they were both on the same creature, I could see allowing it. Have to think about this one. In general, probably wouldn't allow it. On the other hand, I wouldn't rule it out completely. Yes. Just provide a distraction while the other person is doing the slight of hand. If they are concealing something on a person, it would be a case of double-checking each others work as suggested for forgery. If the people could quickly communicate, I would allow it for the spell just being cast. I wouldn't allow it on a counterspell unless both had readied an action against the same spellcaster and could communicate. See the familiars section. Ever heard of a lifeguard? I admit that I'm having trouble imagining a case for this one as well. I would put this as a maybe. Someone else calling out suggestions ("Have you tried crossing your fingers while twitching your nose?") to the person attempting it. I would allow it in a lot more cases than you would, evidently. [/QUOTE]
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