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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7857846" data-attributes="member: 1465">&quot;Trained&quot; was a good rule in 3e, it worked for me. It only has 2 downsides:1) it encouraged some players into jack-of-all-trades just to &quot;unlock&quot; more skill uses, because in 3e it only takes a single skill point or two to get the first skill &quot;rank&quot; and become &quot;trained&quot;; then it can lead to characters who can do a lot more things between combats but are overall really bad at them, so they try all the time and fail mostly, thus wasting time (this would not be a problem in 5e because being proficient in a skill is usually at the expense of another skill)2) a lot of people just don't like being told that their characters cannot even try somethingBecause 5e wanted to be inclusive, it mostly allows to try anything with skills and doesn't normally require to be proficient. That however is not stopping me as a DM to actually DO require it, because even if the PHB doesn't say so, there is always the rule that the DM decides to allow a check. So I decide to sometimes allow it only when a proficient character tries it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7857846, member: 1465"] "Trained" was a good rule in 3e, it worked for me. It only has 2 downsides: 1) it encouraged some players into jack-of-all-trades just to "unlock" more skill uses, because in 3e it only takes a single skill point or two to get the first skill "rank" and become "trained"; then it can lead to characters who can do a lot more things between combats but are overall really bad at them, so they try all the time and fail mostly, thus wasting time (this would not be a problem in 5e because being proficient in a skill is usually at the expense of another skill) 2) a lot of people just don't like being told that their characters cannot even try something Because 5e wanted to be inclusive, it mostly allows to try anything with skills and doesn't normally require to be proficient. That however is not stopping me as a DM to actually DO require it, because even if the PHB doesn't say so, there is always the rule that the DM decides to allow a check. So I decide to sometimes allow it only when a proficient character tries it. [/QUOTE]

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