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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7858338" data-attributes="member: 82504">Its actually ok to pick on it... as it was a hypothetical extreme I have actually used to really demonstrate how much more powerful they actually made the wizard in 5e., In 4e he standardly only saves one person with the feather fall spellOh and they build nets for throwing&nbsp; with weights on the end gets us closer. It spreads out naturallly.&nbsp; The guy who fires 10 or so arrows in real life in about a round of time might get off 3 in less than 2 seconds in fact I suspect running around with 10 loaded would be impractical. (He tends to not show that part of the process I suspect its tricky) Though he did show putting three in his bow hand that I saw and can fire them while doing various flips and rolls like he was in combat dodging. They are short draw shots not all the way back to cheek and wouldn't work for more than 50 yards I think maybe less. The bow is a light one&nbsp; (but that is like native american bows who had the legend of about Hiawatha firing 12 shots before the first one hit). So&nbsp; actually the Archers Volley at level 11 is indeed turning up the volume to 11. I disagree that the game standardly is but little spikes do indeed.&nbsp; Based on that ability is why I might allow the stunt for the paragon class Ranger (who I would call a Robin Hood archetype by that level.Splitting the arrow is not realistic <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; because of physics of arrow flight ironically and may be less possible than the Hiawatha attack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7858338, member: 82504"] Its actually ok to pick on it... as it was a hypothetical extreme I have actually used to really demonstrate how much more powerful they actually made the wizard in 5e., In 4e he standardly only saves one person with the feather fall spell Oh and they build nets for throwing with weights on the end gets us closer. It spreads out naturallly. The guy who fires 10 or so arrows in real life in about a round of time might get off 3 in less than 2 seconds in fact I suspect running around with 10 loaded would be impractical. (He tends to not show that part of the process I suspect its tricky) Though he did show putting three in his bow hand that I saw and can fire them while doing various flips and rolls like he was in combat dodging. They are short draw shots not all the way back to cheek and wouldn't work for more than 50 yards I think maybe less. The bow is a light one (but that is like native american bows who had the legend of about Hiawatha firing 12 shots before the first one hit). So actually the Archers Volley at level 11 is indeed turning up the volume to 11. I disagree that the game standardly is but little spikes do indeed. Based on that ability is why I might allow the stunt for the paragon class Ranger (who I would call a Robin Hood archetype by that level. Splitting the arrow is not realistic ;) because of physics of arrow flight ironically and may be less possible than the Hiawatha attack. [/QUOTE]

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