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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 3068821" data-attributes="member: 14506">I dont want to get distracted here but 2 skill points for a number of classes is just horrible. Yeah it is but that is definitely not the only problem. I really think this is one of the problems with the core skill system too.Are you referring to the fact that my system has 6 levels of skill and yours has 3? What specifically are you referring to here?Agreed, it does increase the skill power a bit at early levels. But by high level this should balance out. True there may be a small handful of people out there that think the current system offers enough skill points to make a decently skilled character... :\ You are right this system does downplay intelligence and the human bonus. But it doesnt downplay it as much as you might think. Remember that 1 point of int or 1 human bonus actually multiply out to a multiple skill ranks at higher level. For instance: two duplicate 12th level characters one is an elf with average alchemy and the other is a human with good alchemy the elf has +8 base ranks and the human has +12 base ranks. So that 1 skill point does make a difference. The same argument caries over with intelligence bonuses too.I think you are forgetting that: So, a Rogue that buys one of his myriad of class skills starts out with an average skill rating rather than poor for 1 skill point. So to max out a class skill that the rogue bought at first level only costs 3 skill points rather than 4.Also, a note on strategically placing your skill points in this system. At low levels good is nearly as good as supreme (1 point difference). So, I would get my key skills up to good and then improve them at mid level to supreme.I like the concept of giving different classes different bonuses after 1st level. However, I also like the simpler version of every even character level characters get +1 skill point (similar to gaining a feat every 3rd level). I did something like what you are talking about with the rogue. I gave them bonus skill points every odd level as a class feature.So to carry your idea, if 8 point guys got: 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, and 196 point guys could get: 3, 7, 11, 15, and 194 point guys could get: 5, 9, 13, and 17and 2 point guys could get: 7, 13,  and 19I kind of like that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. I always felt the rogue was far and away the super skill monkey. This makes them a little less so.So to reiterate how this works: the even skill point bonus is not a class feature it is like gaining feats every third level or ability boosts every fourth level. Then the odd level skill things discussed above are class features. BTW Airwalkrr, I do like your system. Like I said in your thread it has less gradation but includes a pretty complex skill specializing system.Sadrik</blockquote>

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