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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3041301" data-attributes="member: 12460"><p>That's not a bad idea. I'm not too clear on what you mean for the distinctions to be however. For instance, what separates the peasant from the commoner? As a scholar of medieval history, I would have to say peasants usually WERE commoners, although the term peasant might mean something very different depending on where you came from. A Russian peasant from the 15th century for instance was a serf, bound to the land and inclined to do the will of whichever boyar (lord) owned the land. An English peasant from the same century on the other hand could often move freely and swear fealty to a different lord if one lord didn't suit his fancy, although the next lord might be as cruel as the first. Peasant could also refer to both a city laborer or a village farmer. So a bit more distinction might be in order.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps Rural Peasant, Urban Peasant, and Noble would be a better distinction. Even still, there are two other classes you might want to consider, if you are looking to reflect a relatively accurate (except for magic and monsters) medieval society anyway. Slaves were often a small, but significant part of many medieval societies. In some societies, slaves were even the backbone of that society's labor or they fulfilled some other important role (consider Russian serfdom as a form of slavery or the Greek slaves of the Romans). The other class you might want to add is Middle Class. Although relatively small in most societies until the advent of free market economics, the middle class nevertheless fulfilled an important role in many societies as bankers, scholars, and scribes, tasks to which the nobility did not wish to stoop and the peasantry was ill-equiped to handle.</p><p></p><p>Also, I think you may find the term savage and barbarian are roughly synonymous, at least the way most people use it. Perhaps you meant to say Uncultured and Wild, Cultured but Wild, and Cultured and Sedentery. That is being a bit obtuse of course, but just because a group of people lives in the wild does not mean they lack civilization. Many native Americans had very highly developed cultures and were quite civilized, although not in the sense that many Europeans thought. Hence, they dubbed them savages. But the Aztecs built the largest pyramid on earth. It takes a lot of organization for a society to accomplish something like that.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, just some thoughts you might want to consider. As an obsessive compulsive exacting neat-freak, I feel I would provide an inadequate answer if I attempted to address your question about skills without a bit of clarification.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 3041301, member: 12460"] That's not a bad idea. I'm not too clear on what you mean for the distinctions to be however. For instance, what separates the peasant from the commoner? As a scholar of medieval history, I would have to say peasants usually WERE commoners, although the term peasant might mean something very different depending on where you came from. A Russian peasant from the 15th century for instance was a serf, bound to the land and inclined to do the will of whichever boyar (lord) owned the land. An English peasant from the same century on the other hand could often move freely and swear fealty to a different lord if one lord didn't suit his fancy, although the next lord might be as cruel as the first. Peasant could also refer to both a city laborer or a village farmer. So a bit more distinction might be in order. Perhaps Rural Peasant, Urban Peasant, and Noble would be a better distinction. Even still, there are two other classes you might want to consider, if you are looking to reflect a relatively accurate (except for magic and monsters) medieval society anyway. Slaves were often a small, but significant part of many medieval societies. In some societies, slaves were even the backbone of that society's labor or they fulfilled some other important role (consider Russian serfdom as a form of slavery or the Greek slaves of the Romans). The other class you might want to add is Middle Class. Although relatively small in most societies until the advent of free market economics, the middle class nevertheless fulfilled an important role in many societies as bankers, scholars, and scribes, tasks to which the nobility did not wish to stoop and the peasantry was ill-equiped to handle. Also, I think you may find the term savage and barbarian are roughly synonymous, at least the way most people use it. Perhaps you meant to say Uncultured and Wild, Cultured but Wild, and Cultured and Sedentery. That is being a bit obtuse of course, but just because a group of people lives in the wild does not mean they lack civilization. Many native Americans had very highly developed cultures and were quite civilized, although not in the sense that many Europeans thought. Hence, they dubbed them savages. But the Aztecs built the largest pyramid on earth. It takes a lot of organization for a society to accomplish something like that. Anyway, just some thoughts you might want to consider. As an obsessive compulsive exacting neat-freak, I feel I would provide an inadequate answer if I attempted to address your question about skills without a bit of clarification. [/QUOTE]
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