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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5781628" data-attributes="member: 9037">As I said before without some kind of mechanic to help people who are not good talkers how do you handle it. He gives his horrible speech and you hand wave it away and let it succeed.I have a good friend who loves the idea of playing a bard or swashbuckler type character he tried it once and failed in the older editions because he would get tongue tied and his character became ineffective. With the skill check he now plays them more often. I myself suffer from aphasia from a major stoke and sometimes my brain starts farting and I can't get out what I am trying to say. If there was not a skill role I would never even try and play a character that uses bluff or diplomacy. The game is supposed to allow us to play fantasy characters unhampered by real life restraints. Should my friend who only has  no use of one arm and the other is very weak not be allowed to play a fighter because in real life he can't swing a weapon?It is very easy to get around the I roll my dice issue. Ask them what do you say and after they say it have them roll the dice giving bonuses and minuses on how well or how badly they do. If all someone said in my game was come on to get the king to give them help they would face major penalties on the roll. My DM does this he also has noticed that when I am having issues he will ask do you just want to roll.</blockquote>