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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5782139" data-attributes="member: 52734"><p>I'm for skills for social settings, for many of the same reasons noted above. I've had several wallflower players who have benefitted from these rules, allowing them to play characters they've always dreamed of being, but can't for one reason or another in real life.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, I do think social skills should have some of the limits that combat attacks do. Bad tactics are bad tactics and yelling "I hit him with my sword" only gets you so far. The players and the DM have to work together to create the narrative; it isn't all the player's job nor the DM's, but they can help each other.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, I'm not in favor of the one-roll-converts-him-to-my-side mechanic. You want to convince the baron to help you? You need a number of successes, the players aren't the only static actors (what's that? The baron's Vizier has a +20 to Diplomacy as well and is arguing against the players?) and all the checks aren't straight-up Diplomacy checks by <em>one</em> individual.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 5782139, member: 52734"] I'm for skills for social settings, for many of the same reasons noted above. I've had several wallflower players who have benefitted from these rules, allowing them to play characters they've always dreamed of being, but can't for one reason or another in real life. At the same time, I do think social skills should have some of the limits that combat attacks do. Bad tactics are bad tactics and yelling "I hit him with my sword" only gets you so far. The players and the DM have to work together to create the narrative; it isn't all the player's job nor the DM's, but they can help each other. Likewise, I'm not in favor of the one-roll-converts-him-to-my-side mechanic. You want to convince the baron to help you? You need a number of successes, the players aren't the only static actors (what's that? The baron's Vizier has a +20 to Diplomacy as well and is arguing against the players?) and all the checks aren't straight-up Diplomacy checks by [I]one[/I] individual. [/QUOTE]
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