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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 5782279" data-attributes="member: 5143">And I encourage it do.&nbsp; But I don't require it, for the above reasons.&nbsp; And, with my players the adage is, anything that is not banned is permitted.If even one of them gets away without roleplaying, they will all try to get away with it.&nbsp; You don't know how many times I've said &quot;Tell me the reasons I should help you&quot; and some player stared at me for a good 5 minutes saying &quot;Umm....I...umm....well, I can't come up with anything, but my character is very smart.&nbsp; He comes up with something even if I can't.&nbsp; I rolled a 35 for diplomacy.&nbsp; A 35!&nbsp; There's no way that fails.&quot;I have one player who absolutely hates roleplaying more than a sentence or two with NPCs.&nbsp; He is the one that turned it into a joke.&nbsp; He just says &quot;Come ON!&quot;, announces his 40 on his diplomacy check and watches the entire table laugh as he pulls his version of &quot;Diplomacy&quot;.&nbsp; The joke being that he has so much skill that he didn't need pretty words to convince anyone, even if he got a penalty for poor roleplaying, he would get more than high enough to make any DC listed in published adventures(which we mostly played).&nbsp; So, the joke goes that all he has to do is yell out &quot;Come ON!&quot; and the NPCs will agree with him.Another one of my players liked the joke so much, he made a character called Sancho (which is a character from the movie Orgasmo) who just says &quot;I am Sancho&quot; as all his diplomacy checks.I argued a lot at first.&nbsp; But there's only so many times you can argue over the proper use of a diplomacy check before there are better battles to be fought.Skill checks don't STOP roleplaying, but they do hinder it.&nbsp; Rules CAN and do influence the &quot;feeling&quot; the game gives off.&nbsp; Just look at the number of people out there who hate 4e because it doesn't &quot;feel&quot; like D&amp;D.It's possible for people to role play even with skill checks.&nbsp; But my players have figured out that it isn't REQUIRED by the rules.&nbsp; And that I will follow the rules.&nbsp; So, what isn't required, isn't done.The only way they'll stop again is if the rules don't allow them to pick up a dice as a replacement for roleplaying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 5782279, member: 5143"] And I encourage it do. But I don't require it, for the above reasons. And, with my players the adage is, anything that is not banned is permitted. If even one of them gets away without roleplaying, they will all try to get away with it. You don't know how many times I've said "Tell me the reasons I should help you" and some player stared at me for a good 5 minutes saying "Umm....I...umm....well, I can't come up with anything, but my character is very smart. He comes up with something even if I can't. I rolled a 35 for diplomacy. A 35! There's no way that fails." I have one player who absolutely hates roleplaying more than a sentence or two with NPCs. He is the one that turned it into a joke. He just says "Come ON!", announces his 40 on his diplomacy check and watches the entire table laugh as he pulls his version of "Diplomacy". The joke being that he has so much skill that he didn't need pretty words to convince anyone, even if he got a penalty for poor roleplaying, he would get more than high enough to make any DC listed in published adventures(which we mostly played). So, the joke goes that all he has to do is yell out "Come ON!" and the NPCs will agree with him. Another one of my players liked the joke so much, he made a character called Sancho (which is a character from the movie Orgasmo) who just says "I am Sancho" as all his diplomacy checks. I argued a lot at first. But there's only so many times you can argue over the proper use of a diplomacy check before there are better battles to be fought. Skill checks don't STOP roleplaying, but they do hinder it. Rules CAN and do influence the "feeling" the game gives off. Just look at the number of people out there who hate 4e because it doesn't "feel" like D&D. It's possible for people to role play even with skill checks. But my players have figured out that it isn't REQUIRED by the rules. And that I will follow the rules. So, what isn't required, isn't done. The only way they'll stop again is if the rules don't allow them to pick up a dice as a replacement for roleplaying. [/QUOTE]

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