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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6093829" data-attributes="member: 82106">It's reasonable though. 4e had the machinery to do a similar thing using prereqs (and 3e too in essence) where you could level and class limit feats, and/or put ability score reqs on them, so &quot;Walk on Walls&quot; could be a Rogue, level 5, DEX 13, STR 13 feat. 4e basically chose to not do much with prereqs and let players decide what they think is appropriate though. For one thing 4e was to some extent undermining class differentiation (IE you could be a perfectly good 'thief' who's class was 'fighter'), but they also (correctly I think) decided that level limits were kind of silly if feats are written well, and that actually stating that you have to have DEX N to walk on a wall when it still devolves down to a skill check didn't matter that much.Obviously people might like to make it matter more, but remember, the more prereqs you put on things the more character concepts you are basically stating are out of bounds. 4e ultimately got a lot of criticism for feet prereqs and other similar arbitrary limits that amounted to &quot;play this way&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6093829, member: 82106"] It's reasonable though. 4e had the machinery to do a similar thing using prereqs (and 3e too in essence) where you could level and class limit feats, and/or put ability score reqs on them, so "Walk on Walls" could be a Rogue, level 5, DEX 13, STR 13 feat. 4e basically chose to not do much with prereqs and let players decide what they think is appropriate though. For one thing 4e was to some extent undermining class differentiation (IE you could be a perfectly good 'thief' who's class was 'fighter'), but they also (correctly I think) decided that level limits were kind of silly if feats are written well, and that actually stating that you have to have DEX N to walk on a wall when it still devolves down to a skill check didn't matter that much. Obviously people might like to make it matter more, but remember, the more prereqs you put on things the more character concepts you are basically stating are out of bounds. 4e ultimately got a lot of criticism for feet prereqs and other similar arbitrary limits that amounted to "play this way". [/QUOTE]

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