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<blockquote data-quote="sheadunne" data-source="post: 6095064" data-attributes="member: 27570">It does in mine too. The 4e method is not my preferred method. But is the 4e method different from the early &quot;if your base ability score is high enough you don't need to role&quot; method that 5e was using? I think they're pretty much the same, at least in the outcome of ignoring those types of things when adventuring with a party. In 3e, you could just take a 10 or 20 and achieve the same thing.Now I certainly don't want an ever increasing lock system because that just mucks with my sense of immersion, but I do want a quick resolution mechanic that isn't as flaky as a d20 roll when the lock is there because, well, the door has a lock, but I don't want it to bring the game to a crashing halt because it's there. If that makes sense.I'm not advocating for this, but some games using two different types of system depending on whether it's a group activity or an individual activity. If the lock is really suppose to be an issue for an individual PC but not for a party, then you could apply a bonus to the activity, similar to an aid another action. +2 for each additional PC in the party, which would make those simple locks pretty much irrelevant and hand-waved. For the core rules though, I would much prefer a roll the dice approach that makes everything equally difficult (but getting easier) at all levels. A simple skill check does that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sheadunne, post: 6095064, member: 27570"] It does in mine too. The 4e method is not my preferred method. But is the 4e method different from the early "if your base ability score is high enough you don't need to role" method that 5e was using? I think they're pretty much the same, at least in the outcome of ignoring those types of things when adventuring with a party. In 3e, you could just take a 10 or 20 and achieve the same thing. Now I certainly don't want an ever increasing lock system because that just mucks with my sense of immersion, but I do want a quick resolution mechanic that isn't as flaky as a d20 roll when the lock is there because, well, the door has a lock, but I don't want it to bring the game to a crashing halt because it's there. If that makes sense. I'm not advocating for this, but some games using two different types of system depending on whether it's a group activity or an individual activity. If the lock is really suppose to be an issue for an individual PC but not for a party, then you could apply a bonus to the activity, similar to an aid another action. +2 for each additional PC in the party, which would make those simple locks pretty much irrelevant and hand-waved. For the core rules though, I would much prefer a roll the dice approach that makes everything equally difficult (but getting easier) at all levels. A simple skill check does that. [/QUOTE]

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