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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7108086" data-attributes="member: 12731">Sorry, but you're leaping to conclusions here. Picking an existing background with an eye towards your class skills is one thing; completely abusing the offer to come up with your own background is another. There is no need to assume the latter just because of the former, so let's not go where you just went - that is, accusing my players of having to grow up. There is no &quot;extra work&quot;, as in, I am not Reduxing to try to close off every avenue of abuse. But saying &quot;since we can't close off every abuse, we should not even try to improve the rules as written&quot; is not a logical argument. Just because there are still ways to abuse freedoms does not mean1) that they will beor2) that it lacks value to plug up obvious holes in the rules.The rules have definite deficiences. But the ability to create new backgrounds is not one of them.What I want is a ruleset where printed options can be used without DM approval. Creating entirely new features (backgrounds, feats, classes etc) comes with automatic DM supervision so those aren't a problem. Things you're supposed to be able to just take and use (like GWM) is.So I want to fix the latter category without having to discuss the former. Thanks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7108086, member: 12731"] Sorry, but you're leaping to conclusions here. Picking an existing background with an eye towards your class skills is one thing; completely abusing the offer to come up with your own background is another. There is no need to assume the latter just because of the former, so let's not go where you just went - that is, accusing my players of having to grow up. There is no "extra work", as in, I am not Reduxing to try to close off every avenue of abuse. But saying "since we can't close off every abuse, we should not even try to improve the rules as written" is not a logical argument. Just because there are still ways to abuse freedoms does not mean 1) that they will be or 2) that it lacks value to plug up obvious holes in the rules. The rules have definite deficiences. But the ability to create new backgrounds is [B]not[/B] one of them. What I want is a ruleset where printed options can be used without DM approval. Creating entirely new features (backgrounds, feats, classes etc) comes with automatic DM supervision so those aren't a problem. Things you're supposed to be able to just take and use (like GWM) is. So I want to fix the latter category without having to discuss the former. Thanks. [/QUOTE]

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