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<blockquote data-quote="dreaded_beast" data-source="post: 1393678" data-attributes="member: 11185"><p>Skills that became "useless" as soon as a "magical" alternative was found (not that I find anything wrong with a magical alternative, since I think that is what the purpose of magic is for <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />):</p><p></p><p>Search: Wand of Detect Secret Doors</p><p>Jump: Fly</p><p>Swim: Water Breathing/Freedom of Movement</p><p>Ride: Fly</p><p>Use Rope: Spider Climb/Fly (or just buy some masterwork manacles)</p><p>Climb: Spider Climb/Fly</p><p>Speak Language: Comprehend Languages/Tongues</p><p>Disguise: Disguise Self</p><p></p><p>Skills that were just "useless" either because of the campaign/playstyle or lack of finding any practical uses by the players/DM</p><p></p><p>Appraise: we don't really enjoy trying to find the correct worth, just as long as it is in the ballpark (or the DM just gives out gold or tells us straight how much something is worth)</p><p></p><p>Profession/Craft: Never any downtime. No other uses came to mind other than earning GP. (If we needed GP, we explored a dungeon or went on an adventure)</p><p></p><p>Handle Animal: Never really had to deal with "handling animals". The DM just ran them as "NPCs". (Which was cool in my opinion)</p><p></p><p>Diplomacy: More trouble than what it is worth when everyone just "roleplayed" and didn't bother to roll. And if you did roll and got a "1", it sucked even more.</p><p></p><p>Bluff: Same as above</p><p></p><p>Gather Information: Regardless, the DM told us what we needed to know and kept from us what he wanted, no matter the roll.</p><p></p><p>Skills that were "useless" because unless you had some really high ranks, there was no point in taking it, due to either DM house rules or the PHB rules themselves.</p><p></p><p>Intimidate: the high amount of ranks and also for the same reasons as Diplomacy and Bluff</p><p></p><p>Tumble: with the variant tumble rules from Arcane Unearthed, you need a tumble skill at least as high as your opponents total attack bonus. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Escape Artist: better off using your attack bonus in our campaign</p><p></p><p>Probably more, but this is atm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dreaded_beast, post: 1393678, member: 11185"] Skills that became "useless" as soon as a "magical" alternative was found (not that I find anything wrong with a magical alternative, since I think that is what the purpose of magic is for :)): Search: Wand of Detect Secret Doors Jump: Fly Swim: Water Breathing/Freedom of Movement Ride: Fly Use Rope: Spider Climb/Fly (or just buy some masterwork manacles) Climb: Spider Climb/Fly Speak Language: Comprehend Languages/Tongues Disguise: Disguise Self Skills that were just "useless" either because of the campaign/playstyle or lack of finding any practical uses by the players/DM Appraise: we don't really enjoy trying to find the correct worth, just as long as it is in the ballpark (or the DM just gives out gold or tells us straight how much something is worth) Profession/Craft: Never any downtime. No other uses came to mind other than earning GP. (If we needed GP, we explored a dungeon or went on an adventure) Handle Animal: Never really had to deal with "handling animals". The DM just ran them as "NPCs". (Which was cool in my opinion) Diplomacy: More trouble than what it is worth when everyone just "roleplayed" and didn't bother to roll. And if you did roll and got a "1", it sucked even more. Bluff: Same as above Gather Information: Regardless, the DM told us what we needed to know and kept from us what he wanted, no matter the roll. Skills that were "useless" because unless you had some really high ranks, there was no point in taking it, due to either DM house rules or the PHB rules themselves. Intimidate: the high amount of ranks and also for the same reasons as Diplomacy and Bluff Tumble: with the variant tumble rules from Arcane Unearthed, you need a tumble skill at least as high as your opponents total attack bonus. :( Escape Artist: better off using your attack bonus in our campaign Probably more, but this is atm. [/QUOTE]
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