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<blockquote data-quote="abirdcall" data-source="post: 6734451" data-attributes="member: 6748898">I think you should recognize that you don't have the system mastery to determine whether or not bards are balanced.They are actually one of the more powerful classes.Jack of all trades is not Master of all trades, and neither should it be. Expertise allows you to be master of a couple though, which you get. It is very powerful. Draconic sorcerers get wings at 14th level when they don't matter much. At that point Jack of all trades will give you +2 to all skills you are not proficient in and Expertise will give you +5 to the ones that are important to your character. That seems much better. If you are a Lore Bard you can also expend a use of Bardic Inspiration to add a d10 to the check (d12 at level 15+).Sounds like bards end up becoming the best in the world at whatever skill they like while all draconic sorcerers get are some wings.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="abirdcall, post: 6734451, member: 6748898"] I think you should recognize that you don't have the system mastery to determine whether or not bards are balanced. They are actually one of the more powerful classes. Jack of all trades is not Master of all trades, and neither should it be. Expertise allows you to be master of a couple though, which you get. It is very powerful. Draconic sorcerers get wings at 14th level when they don't matter much. At that point Jack of all trades will give you +2 to all skills you are not proficient in and Expertise will give you +5 to the ones that are important to your character. That seems much better. If you are a Lore Bard you can also expend a use of Bardic Inspiration to add a d10 to the check (d12 at level 15+). Sounds like bards end up becoming the best in the world at whatever skill they like while all draconic sorcerers get are some wings. [/QUOTE]

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