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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7534274" data-attributes="member: 97077">Here's how that might play out at my table:DM:&nbsp; Alice, your rogue recognizes the Zhentish tattoos on the gang leader as they flee.Alice:&nbsp; Oh, I need to make sure they get away.&nbsp; My rogue says &quot;We shouldn't follow then, they're probably just hired thugs.&quot;<s>DM:&nbsp; Alice, with the tattoos you're sure that's not true.&nbsp; Can you make a deception check for your rogue?</s><s>Alice:&nbsp; 9, plus 2 for CHR and 3 for proficiency since I'm trained ...14</s><s>DM:&nbsp; Bob, your cleric with the Observant feat has a higher passive insight.&nbsp; He catches some hint that the rogue isn't telling the truth, the whole truth, so help her Helm.</s>DM (again):&nbsp; What does everyone do?Charlene:&nbsp; My barbarian chases the thugs anyhow.&nbsp; Her blood is up and she's still spoiling for a fight.(That's especially true since Observant has nothing to do with Insight.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7534274, member: 97077"] Here's how that might play out at my table: DM: Alice, your rogue recognizes the Zhentish tattoos on the gang leader as they flee. Alice: Oh, I need to make sure they get away. My rogue says "We shouldn't follow then, they're probably just hired thugs." [s]DM: Alice, with the tattoos you're sure that's not true. Can you make a deception check for your rogue? Alice: 9, plus 2 for CHR and 3 for proficiency since I'm trained ...14 DM: Bob, your cleric with the Observant feat has a higher passive insight. He catches some hint that the rogue isn't telling the truth, the whole truth, so help her Helm.[/s] DM (again): What does everyone do? Charlene: My barbarian chases the thugs anyhow. Her blood is up and she's still spoiling for a fight. (That's especially true since Observant has nothing to do with Insight.) [/QUOTE]

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