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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 7534318" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya!</p><p></p><p>Sorry to jump in here, but it's just a quick answer/comment. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A DM shouldn't ask for any check when it's Player vs. Player. The DM should look Player B square in the eye and say "How do I know? He's YOUR character. What do YOU think?".</p><p></p><p>If the player insisted on getting some sort of 'roll', (and I *have* had this come up once or twice over the decades), I then ask something along the line of "Ok, so you want NPC's and PC's using skills like Persuasion and Diplomacy to be able to force you to go along with what they want, or make you purchase an item for a high price? I mean, I'm cool with that if you are...". It is at this point that the Player says "Uh, well...er...no. I guess not. Never mind". This response happened EVERY SINGLE TIME. Without fail.</p><p></p><p>Players that tend to ask for this sort of thing are ones who, geeze, how to put this nicely...uh... lets say "tend towards wanting consequences for their actions taken out of their hands". Not sure why that is, but it happens. When confronted with just how that would affect them later on in the game they realize how foolish it is (the idea, not the Player).</p><p></p><p>Ok, back to the thread! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 7534318, member: 45197"] Hiya! Sorry to jump in here, but it's just a quick answer/comment. :) A DM shouldn't ask for any check when it's Player vs. Player. The DM should look Player B square in the eye and say "How do I know? He's YOUR character. What do YOU think?". If the player insisted on getting some sort of 'roll', (and I *have* had this come up once or twice over the decades), I then ask something along the line of "Ok, so you want NPC's and PC's using skills like Persuasion and Diplomacy to be able to force you to go along with what they want, or make you purchase an item for a high price? I mean, I'm cool with that if you are...". It is at this point that the Player says "Uh, well...er...no. I guess not. Never mind". This response happened EVERY SINGLE TIME. Without fail. Players that tend to ask for this sort of thing are ones who, geeze, how to put this nicely...uh... lets say "tend towards wanting consequences for their actions taken out of their hands". Not sure why that is, but it happens. When confronted with just how that would affect them later on in the game they realize how foolish it is (the idea, not the Player). Ok, back to the thread! :) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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