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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 3722291" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>Saga dealt with this very well. Your opposed checks against an enemy of something approaching your level would be the limiting factor. And EVERYTHING is an opposed check, as far as I remember.</p><p></p><p>I don't mind the wizard sneaking past the goblin mooks that patrol outside the keep, but the trained guards inside have a REAL good chance of spotting him, and the BBEG and his lieutenants are going to see him coming a mile away.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, the rogue who is trained and talented for it is going to sneak right up and pants the BBEG as before.</p><p></p><p>Balance maintained, game more entertainingly "heroic" IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You're assuming DCs are the same as in 3.5, you know, and ignoring the trained/untrained divide. Making decent money as a performer may require a substantially larger modifier what with feats/talents AND training in that skill.</p><p></p><p>Also, the vast majority of mammals can swim competently at birth, and humans only fail at it when they're nervous. We ARE naturally buoyant. With no training, provided you're confident you can do it, you can swim in all manner of conditions for at least a little while. And certainly are far better at it than the average 3.5 adventurer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The grumpy dwarf is still a 10th level adventurer, who is going to succeed at some amount of diplomacy checks simply because he's almost certainly a wealthy bad-arse. That carries more weight with people than smooth talking in the VAST majority of situations, and I can throw research at you to prove it.</p><p></p><p>The 20th level wizard SHOULD be more intimidating than anything but the biggest, hairiest, ugliest 10th level barbarian. He's a <em>20th level wizard</em> who can rearrange your atoms in a split second.</p><p></p><p>We're so married to D&D archetypes, we're rejecting more REALISTIC social modeling. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 3722291, member: 4720"] Saga dealt with this very well. Your opposed checks against an enemy of something approaching your level would be the limiting factor. And EVERYTHING is an opposed check, as far as I remember. I don't mind the wizard sneaking past the goblin mooks that patrol outside the keep, but the trained guards inside have a REAL good chance of spotting him, and the BBEG and his lieutenants are going to see him coming a mile away. Meanwhile, the rogue who is trained and talented for it is going to sneak right up and pants the BBEG as before. Balance maintained, game more entertainingly "heroic" IMO. You're assuming DCs are the same as in 3.5, you know, and ignoring the trained/untrained divide. Making decent money as a performer may require a substantially larger modifier what with feats/talents AND training in that skill. Also, the vast majority of mammals can swim competently at birth, and humans only fail at it when they're nervous. We ARE naturally buoyant. With no training, provided you're confident you can do it, you can swim in all manner of conditions for at least a little while. And certainly are far better at it than the average 3.5 adventurer. The grumpy dwarf is still a 10th level adventurer, who is going to succeed at some amount of diplomacy checks simply because he's almost certainly a wealthy bad-arse. That carries more weight with people than smooth talking in the VAST majority of situations, and I can throw research at you to prove it. The 20th level wizard SHOULD be more intimidating than anything but the biggest, hairiest, ugliest 10th level barbarian. He's a [i]20th level wizard[/i] who can rearrange your atoms in a split second. We're so married to D&D archetypes, we're rejecting more REALISTIC social modeling. :) [/QUOTE]
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