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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UndeadScottsman" data-source="post: 3722961" data-attributes="member: 12066">What exactly is "good enough" though?  None of us has looked at the system yet; we do not know what the average save DC is going to be at those levels.  For all we know, he wouldn't be able to make a equal level save DC; but he's be able to beat those of levels far earlier than his own. (I.E. the Wizards stealths past the mooks, but gets caught by the higher level guards whereas the rogue totally sneaks his way all the way to the head honcho)Plus, even if the dwarf gets a pass, doesn't mean other characters can't do it better. (Dwarf is asked to politely stay outside instead of getting his ass kicked for being stubborn and rude; whereas the high charisma, skill focused Elf fighter manages to convince the guards to let the party in to go in with all their weapons.)</blockquote>