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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 3726706" data-attributes="member: 158">Neither do I - But I'd like to see an option (in the DMG if nothing else) that allows for a player to be more discerning with his skills than to slap one huge bonus on them or leave them alone entirely.It seems like some debaters are seeing this like 4E will be SAGA with no changes, and the opposing debaters seem to think that the former group wants 3E's skill system with no changes whatsoever. I'd rather have Star Wars saga as a base, but with an option that doesn't make it mandatory for a character to have a bonus in every single skill across the board.I have no problem with BAB going up , and hit points going up, because those are the bread and butter to every adventurer. But Climbing is not the bread and butter of every character, neither is forgery, or magic device use, etc. Some characters might go their whole careers with having to climb a cliff once, or never forging a single document; but I don't think I've ever seen a wizard who hasn't made several attack rolls, or took damage (especially since 3.5, because those orb spells are really darned good!)</blockquote>