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<blockquote data-quote="Tharkon" data-source="post: 5644091" data-attributes="member: 6674292">The sleep spell specifically says creatures are affected from lowest to highest HD and only when HD is tied the closest is affected.Turning says creatures are affected from closest to furthest, and when tied for range the lowest HD is affected.Turning also specifies that turned creatures can be skipped, I would assume they would add unturnable creatures to that.My opinion is they are skipped, but I'm trying to find and compare evidence for and against it.EDIT:The variant presented on page 66 of Unearthed Arcana is weak evidence in favor of skipping unturnables.This variant calls for a level check on each undead, closest to furthers, success means its affected, failure means its skipped.This variant is presented specifically to get rid of unturnables altogether though, so it's only weak support.EDIT 2:Supporting the opposite of it is this change to the example:The party cleric is level 1 with Cha 14 and rolls 20 on his D20, resulting in 22 meaning he can turn undead of HD 5 or lower.Now 2HD are used up on Undead 1, and the other 2 are wasted on Undead 2.Unless we assume it's also skipped in this situation, which makes the explicit mention of distance before hitdice in the book less important, this would result in a high roll punishing the cleric.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tharkon, post: 5644091, member: 6674292"] The sleep spell specifically says creatures are affected from lowest to highest HD and only when HD is tied the closest is affected. Turning says creatures are affected from closest to furthest, and when tied for range the lowest HD is affected. Turning also specifies that turned creatures can be skipped, I would assume they would add unturnable creatures to that. My opinion is they are skipped, but I'm trying to find and compare evidence for and against it. EDIT: The variant presented on page 66 of Unearthed Arcana is weak evidence in favor of skipping unturnables. This variant calls for a level check on each undead, closest to furthers, success means its affected, failure means its skipped. This variant is presented specifically to get rid of unturnables altogether though, so it's only weak support. EDIT 2: Supporting the opposite of it is this change to the example: The party cleric is level 1 with Cha 14 and rolls 20 on his D20, resulting in 22 meaning he can turn undead of HD 5 or lower. Now 2HD are used up on Undead 1, and the other 2 are wasted on Undead 2. Unless we assume it's also skipped in this situation, which makes the explicit mention of distance before hitdice in the book less important, this would result in a high roll punishing the cleric. [/QUOTE]

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